illegals

I think it is a general term sort of like Anglo. The same can be said about the term Anglo Saxon. Not every white person in American or Canada is Anglo Saxon; Slavic, Mediterranean, Baltic, Turkic and Basque. Now the term Latin, not Latino, would fit someone with Roman or Mediterranean ancestry, including many Spaniards, Greeks and Italians. Since many Mexican have Spanish ancestry wouldn't that make them Hispanic, only the ones with that ancestry. I have spent time in Mazatlan and I saw a lot of diversity amongst the Mexicans; from pure Indian, to various blends of Spanish and other nationalities, to pure Spanish. Our host was half Mexican and half Chinese, great cook!!!

Jalisco Lancer is seeing the issue from the perspective of a person living in Latin America. There is no great "Latin-American" feeling throughout the continent. Every person from every country identifies with his or her own nationality. And if you pay attention, you will see that these feelings survive in the U.S.

The "Hispanic" or "Latino" identity exists only the U.S., and it is not that strong within the community. The term "Anglo" is use contrastively with "Mexican," meaning "white American," at least among Mexican immigrants. More popular than "Anglo" is calling white people "Americans."

Change the context, and the terms that Mexicans use changes as well. For example, talk about different group of white people, and they will start using words like "Irish," "Italian," and for people who came from England, "Anglo-Saxon."

But this is the way with every ethnic group. After all, Irish and Italians are still given a hard time in the U.S. Most people won�t say outright anti-Irish or Italian slurs, but they hide these under the name �Catholic.� Interestingly, Mexicans, who are overwhelmingly Catholic, do not fall under this category.

She cooked up this six course shrimp dinner that was out of this world!!!!

I like the car license plates- Estate de Sin or state of sin-

My favorite breakfast is a mexican one with refried beans. by the way Soon I will be back in Greece- hurray!!!

I really think we should protect our borders. One thing that boils my blood though is a illegal alien or even a foreigners can get away with life saving treatments from hospitals. And the money comes out of American pockets. In one recent example a women from Peru had a stroke in a mall, she was treated. The hospital tracked her and gave her the bill, it was alittle over 6000 dollars, she refused to pay and threatened to sue. Now her husband is very rich and own a good company so shes not even poor.

Even if they can't afford it its still not fair to Americans, a pregnant women can come in and have a baby without paying any bills. Its just not fair at all. There were a few more cases, a few from Europe they showed that were in the thousands that weren't paid also, so its not only from the Americas. But alot of illegals do take advantage...

Originally posted by hugoestr Furthermore, no European immigrant had to learn English. There was no immigration office chasing immigrants into night classes. It was in their best interest to learn English, and that is what they did; many Mexicans are doing the same thing for the same reasons. ?

Yes, not DIRECTLY they had to learn english, but to surive, it was a neccesity back then. AN immigrant from Germany had no help to learn english. Many Hispanics now a days have ESL programs in schools, more night classes, and many signs and such things are written in Both english and Spanish. Because there is such a help With the hispanic population, they is not as great  a need learn english. As they say, you can't learn language A speaking in language B.

Its both if you ask me. Unfortunatly I don't write the laws... But they do take advantage of it and its known. Just the like that woman from Peru, and she was rich and refused to pay anything.

There would also have to be laws for the major problem of sueing others for the dumbest reasons, or just like the woman from peru she'd just have to sue the hospital and cause more lose on the hospital. Theres a whole lot of laws that would have to be passed through politics, and until then our system will continue to be taken advantage of.

I don't mind legal immigrants coming because they are here to make a living, and the illegals or visitors are just stealing from all the Americans whether it be White, black, or hispanic, they lose there money to pay for someone who has no right to do what they did.

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Originally posted by strategos Originally posted by hugoestr Furthermore, no European immigrant had to learn English. There was no immigration office chasing immigrants into night classes. It was in their best interest to learn English, and that is what they did; many Mexicans are doing the same thing for the same reasons. ? Yes, not DIRECTLY they had to learn english, but to surive, it was a neccesity back then. AN immigrant from Germany had no help to learn english. Many Hispanics now a days have ESL programs in schools, more night classes, and many signs and such things are written in Both english and Spanish. Because there is such a help With the hispanic population, they is not as great a need learn english. As they say, you can't learn language A speaking in language B.

You are incorrect. There were night schools for European immigrants. My wife's grandparents learned English that way. They came to the country in the 1910s. It was such an institution that there is even a radio comedy show in the 1930s or 1940s about immigrants learning English at night school.

You really don't know anything about Mexican immigrants' life in the U.S. All what you have is the viewpoint of a biased outsider looking at these people.

So, do you live in the Midwest, Southwest, or the South, Strategos?

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I have plently of Mexican friends, whose familys moved from Mexico, so do not go about telling me what I know and what I do not know..

Originally posted by Jalisco Lancer do you really have mexican friends ? uh oh...

Are you trying to provoke me? I expected better from a moderator as yourself..