Israel vs Lebanon, the sequel

I can understand erkut's posts, being an Israeli and having recently been in a war, means that objectivity goes out of the window. That said, I cannot even begin to comprehend the motivation behind the post of some 'supporters" of Israel, even when presented with the facts.

Do not mix everything to a summed group of terrorist north, south, west of Israel. If you have read about the conflict, you will know that Israel invaded Lebanon to kick out the PLO out of Lebanon. They succeeded, so why do they need to stay occuping south of Lebanon if the PLO was kicked out? If you read the New York Times article of Sabrina Tavernisa, you will be surprised that actually the Shiite welcomed first the Israelis to kick out the PLO because they grew tired of the conflict, but Israel decided to occupy the south with tons of camps that prisons civilians with all physical torture and abuses (ex. Al Khiam infamous camp). It look to me Israel is good at making only enemies.

Actually Lebanon civil war didn't start with the Palestinians. It is a very complex civil war that started with Leftist and Rightist dispute on Kamil Shamoun proposal to change the constitution to allow for re-election of the Maronite president. Palestinians came later in the conflict and of course with specific agenda to help one side in the conflict. Do you even know that Syria invaded Lebanon in 1976 to support the Christian Phallange militia and fought against the Palestinians especially in Tyre (Sidon)?

Anyhow, We are here to discuss about Hezbollah-Israel conflict. If you want to run a history of Israel, we can stretch it to the Canaanite times. Stay focus please.

I don't think anyone here disputed allowing Jewish living in Palestine. There has been always jews living in Palestine. The troubles only started when Jewish terrorist groups such as the Haganah made it clear they are looking to establish an Israeli state by force over all the Palestinians. I think it is completely natural for a group that will be neglected and forced to be under a Jewish state despite they formed the majority to fight back for their rights. Israel wanted a jewish majority and that is why they declared the state of Israel, expected Arabs intervention to ensure the rights of the Arab majority, took the chance and committed massacres and cleaned whole villages, hebce 700,000 Palestinians out as refugees. Of course they wont be back to their homes, because that will defeat the purpose of a Jewish majority in Israel. For those who remained inside Israel, till now, they are second class citizens. That is a fact, not an assumption.