WW1 Tanks
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Topic: WW1 Tanks
Posted By: Nick1986
Subject: WW1 Tanks
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2011 at 20:59
In response to the successes of Britain's tanks, the Germans created their own land ironclad: the A7V. Above is a cross section of this behemoth which had a 57mm gun in addition to its 6 machine guns and rifle ports ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2011 at 19:39
Here is a cross section of a British Mk I tank from 1916. Designers hadn't yet solved the steering problem (slowing and speeding up the tracks) and relied on a pair of guiding wheels attached to the rear ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2011 at 03:21
 Tsar Tank, 1914-1915 Russia (experimental) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_tank - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_tank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_World_War_I - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_World_War_I It is like first bicycles   ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2011 at 19:00
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Now that really is weird. The Russians nicknamed the Tsar Tank the "bat" because from above it resembled a roosting pipistrelle. ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2011 at 19:02
 Another cross-section, this time of a Whippet tank. As you can see, it was a simple design derived from an armored car ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 24-Oct-2011 at 19:32
 France's FT-17, one of the best tanks of the war. These were used well into the 1940s and two were recently discovered in Afghanistan ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2011 at 21:18
 America's Liberty tank, the culmination of Britain's original 1916 design. Only three survive today, out of the 125 produced ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2011 at 19:42
 Cross-section of Britain's late-war "Hornet" tank Mark C ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2011 at 19:03
Something of interest to you Ollios:
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 20:54
 Inside the final variant of the British lozenge tank, the Mk V ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Kevinmeath
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2012 at 18:36
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I think we forget what a huge leap the 'Tank' they were quite literally from the pages of 'Sci-Fi'.
The first world war changed so much look at areoplanes , 1914 they can barely fly over the channel to France by 1918 we have fighter bombers etc its only 4 years a very short time really. ------------- cymru am byth |
Posted By: Delenda est Roma
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2012 at 18:49
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Old Da Vinci thought up everything before us :p. But weren't WWI tanks prone to mechanical problems? And what carried the extra fuel trucks? ------------- |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2012 at 19:36
Indeed. As Centrix will tell you, tanks were slow, unwieldy, and caught fire easily. The French solved the fuel problem by creating "chars de ravitaillement:" armored supply carriers capable of following the tanks. ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 19:21
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Fuel, believe it or not, wasn't a major issue for the tanks of WWI, since they were created solely to waddle a couple of hundred yards across No Man's Land, breach the wire, cross the initial trench line and fend of or destroy the enemy machine gunners to allow the accompanying infantry to exploit the breakthrough. Beyond that, no actual role existed for them until much later. The French need for armored fuel trucks appears to have been primarily for their armored, self-propelled artillery units. St. Chammond  |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 19:24
While we're at it, this was the French WWI contribution to tanks, the CharD Assaut St. Chammond. |
Posted By: Delenda est Roma
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2012 at 20:15
A good solution, ------------- |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2012 at 17:23
But one which points out the vulnerability of rear area activities such as re-fueling to enemy artillery fire. |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2012 at 19:14
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Model of a French Schneider Char de Ravitaillement http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/schneider_rev_model.htm%20 - http://www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/schneider_rev_model.htm ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2012 at 19:52
"broken link redirect" |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2012 at 19:56
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I'll try again: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-7rte-1JmFgJ:www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/schneider_rev_model.htm+char+de+ravitaillement&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk%20 - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-7rte-1JmFgJ:www.landships.freeservers.com/new_pages/schneider_rev_model.htm+char+de+ravitaillement&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 17-Aug-2012 at 20:09
"REMOTE LINKING FORBIDDEN". Not very friendly, are they?  Can you post an image here? |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2012 at 03:57
Indeed. And for the luv of Christ will ya Guy's give me a break....I crapped out on this 30 years ago but still defend and opine.... must be the guidon... Bottom line and I know em and fought em and luv em. but ya can't eat em....and always remember a tanker without his machine is nothing more then a highly trained and specialised machinist waiting fer another tank. A Cav soldier otoh is a trooper... iow. when he got a horse shot down off his ahole...he will immediately refer to his infantry training. And that ole friends remains the 'queen of battle'. Course he bitches cuz he had to dismount and or eat the mule.  they been doing that since the days of the original Scorpion King. lol ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 18-Aug-2012 at 04:10
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But my hats off to the pics and the op and from all....makes my heart warm to see we still have a few who would know the history of ARMOR.
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Posted By: Jack Torrance
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2012 at 11:18
Went perusing around Wiki and found this: That's a mighty small tank to the left of Mr. Holt. I would think no nation would see much use for such a small tank other than the Italians with their L3/33 and L3/35 tankettes used in the Spanish Civil War and WWII. Of the tanks used in WWI it appears most were of a good size and I found only the French Renault FT tank to be of comparable size to the Holt mini Cooper.  As these French tanks were more in use than any other tanks of WWI I wonder for what use they were employed. As breakthrough tanks? This tanks don't appear to be capable of going through wire entanglements or of crossing over trenches. |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2012 at 12:08
This is the American Ford 3 ton tank - comparable to the "Whippet" tankettes of other nations. These seem to have been intended to be the equivalent of cavalry, intended to accompany the infantry and deal with enemy machine guns. To show actual size:  |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2012 at 19:24
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Sorry Mountainman, i don't understand why remote linking isn't working. According to this German website, the French nicknamed the Schneider "rolling crematory" as it easily caught fire http://www.fl18.de/artikel/347/ - http://www.fl18.de/artikel/347/ ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2012 at 19:12
And they named the WWII Sherman the "Tommy Cooker" for the same reason. Seems to be problem the Allies have had for a long time. ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2012 at 09:31
How many of these were used on the Western Front? It's not a tank i'm familiar with ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 06-Oct-2012 at 15:43
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I have a few on my blog http://historyplanet.wordpress.com/category/surreal-tanks/ ------------- Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out? http://historyplanet.wordpress.com - History Planet Website <br / |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2012 at 07:27
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFbYTYt6Ok8[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2012 at 10:09
Schwerekampwagen A7V: Das Krieg Pferd ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2012 at 12:46
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Little Willie the first ever tank [TUBE]3fLCdNudUxk&feature=related[/TUBE] First ever tank v tank battle [TUBE]bn4uRvgIEJY&feature=related[/TUBE] and finally Russian Experimental Tanks. I particularly like the one from 1 to 4 secs into the vid. I built one exactly the same when I was a kid. [TUBE]TrNkV6kVPos&feature=related[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 05-Nov-2012 at 12:38
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What were those strange two-wheeled tanks at the start of the video Toltec?
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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 05-Nov-2012 at 13:03
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Concepts for an armored infantryman. not very practical because I don't see how anyone could fight simultaneously, but maybe they were supposed t crawl to the enemy trench in them? ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2012 at 13:24
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The Germans introduced the first self-propelled tank destroyers shortly after the first tanks arrived. Anti-aircraft guns were mounted on flat-bed lorries and inflicted heavy casualties on British tanks at Cambrai
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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2012 at 14:37
Pictures, pictures...and pictures? ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2012 at 16:47
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How about this Mountainman: a German gun truck in Palestine http://www.flickr.com/photos/39631091@N03/5310134255/">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/39631091@N03/5310134255/ - Nazareth, German flak, April 1918 by http://www.flickr.com/people/39631091@N03/ - blauepics , on Flickr ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2012 at 12:19
Rolls Royce Armored Car: ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |