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    Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 09:41
did they ever exist pigeons who brought letters it seems so unreal that a pigeon know the whole way to a place
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 11:04
The Muslims used such communications.

It is told that a pidgeon flies back to where he was born at...
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  Quote Top Gun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 11:15
yes but how does a pidgeon know wich direction it must fly if it is never been there and wich city or castle it must bring its letter
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 11:20
as he said it flies back were it was born. The rest is instinct
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  Quote malizai_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 11:35

Pigeons dont fly to where they born, but to where home is, they will make exceptions at the approach of dusk when they will follow other pigeons to shelter. If that be where they are born then so be it. Pigeons are most definitely aware of the earth's magnetic fields, have very good sight, mark landmarks in general flight and have a good memory.

Muslims have generally had a great tradition of pigeons as carriers and a number of famous palaces and forts had pigeon holes built into the walls, to receive them back.
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  Quote Top Gun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 13:25
yes but you can't say against a pigeon fly to berlin how ever must a pigeon understand that
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 17:19
Pigeons don't fly to where they were born, or their home, They usually fly to where my car is parked.Tongue
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 17:30
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yes but you can't say against a pigeon fly to berlin how ever must a pigeon understand that

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you had ofcourse multiple pigeons for different locationsSmile


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  Quote malizai_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2007 at 20:21
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yes but you can't say against a pigeon fly to berlin how ever must a pigeon understand that
 
Are u remotely serious with that question? is that reasoning?
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yes but you can't say against a pigeon fly to berlin how ever must a pigeon understand that
 
Are u remotely serious with that question? is that reasoning?
 
What do you meanShocked it was just a question the post pigeons seem to me just a myth I wanted to be certain unles what I think is they drove with the pigeon al the way from place to place and then it could fly back up and down to the same place
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Well, this should dispel any doubt.

"Messenger pigeons were used as early as 1150 in Baghdad [2] and also later by Genghis Khan.

In 1850, Paul Reuter, who later founded Reuters press agency, used a fleet of over 45 pigeons to deliver news and stock prices between Brussels and Aachen. The outcome of the Battle of Waterloo was also first delivered by a pigeon to England.

Possibly the first regular air mail service in the world was Mr Howie's Pigeon-Post service from the Auckland New Zealand suburb of Newton to Great Barrier Island, starting in 1896. Certainly the worlds first 'airmail' stamps were issued for the Great Barrier Pigeon-Gram Service from 1898 to 1908. [3]

They were used extensively during World War I, and one homing pigeon, Cher Ami, was awarded the French Croix de Guerre for his heroic service in delivering 12 important messages, despite being shot once.

Eighty-two homing pigeons were dropped into Holland with the First Airborn Division Signals as part of Operation Market-Garden in World War II. The pigeons' loft was located in London which would have required them to fly 240 miles to deliver their messages.[4]

Homing pigeons were still employed in the 21st century by certain remote police departments in Orissa state in eastern India to provide emergency communication services following natural disasters. In March 2002, it was announced that India's Police Pigeon Service messenger system in Orissa was to be retired."

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  Quote Top Gun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 03:29
what an history for pigeons.
so you mean that pigeons can fly out them self to a place and that they understand its command from theyre master
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No, they do not understand commands. They just fly back home. So if you want to send a message to Berlin, you need a pidgie from Berlin. You take it with you to somewhere else, tie a message to it and let it go. The pigeon will fly back to where it came from, and whoever keeps the pidgies in Berlin will be able to get the message.
 
We used to have pidgeons at home. Lots of them, as they are extremely hard to get rid of. When there were too much we would give them away to others, but they kept coming back. One time we gave away two small chicks with the father to take care of them. The father cared for them until they were big enough, and the came back to us, almost a month later. They are like boomerangs.LOL
 
There are whole organisations of pigeon keepers who breed homing pidgeons for sport. They will take a lot of pidgeons to the other side of Europe and let them go, and whoever's pidgeon makes it home first wins. I've heard that a prizewinning homing pidgeon can be worth over 20.000 euros.
 
The American Racing Pidgeon Union.

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Anyone knows since when are pidgeon used for communication?
 
Since the Middle Ages, Rome, Greece or what.
 
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 11:11
I think that the Arabs were the ones that introduced it into Europe.
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  Quote malizai_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 13:07

Although i have no sources for it i believe they were also used onboard ships and boats. It may have been Barbary or Ottoman seamen.

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  Quote Top Gun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 14:55
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No, they do not understand commands. They just fly back home. So if you want to send a message to Berlin, you need a pidgie from Berlin. You take it with you to somewhere else, tie a message to it and let it go. The pigeon will fly back to where it came from, and whoever keeps the pidgies in Berlin will be able to get the message.
 
We used to have pidgeons at home. Lots of them, as they are extremely hard to get rid of. When there were too much we would give them away to others, but they kept coming back. One time we gave away two small chicks with the father to take care of them. The father cared for them until they were big enough, and the came back to us, almost a month later. They are like boomerangs.LOL
 
There are whole organisations of pigeon keepers who breed homing pidgeons for sport. They will take a lot of pidgeons to the other side of Europe and let them go, and whoever's pidgeon makes it home first wins. I've heard that a prizewinning homing pidgeon can be worth over 20.000 euros.
 
The American Racing Pidgeon Union.
 
thats interesting but it is a bit difficult to take your pigeon from one place to the other to use it as a post messenger and if that somebody moved to an other place it couln't follow it any more
 
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