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    Posted: 17-Mar-2006 at 16:21

Well, I do not argue with you anymore concerning Kurds, if I don't have too.

They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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I see you're stopped being crybaby cent

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"Kurds want their own country? or people like you and saywan who follow terrorist idol Ocalan?  That's not even enough to dream about

Kurds of Turkey and Iran won't be seperated because they don't want to.Your kinds are just stooges of other countries, you're not even a handful to take serious and I'm really sorry for you."

"Okey".
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There is also party in Eastern Kurdistan (iran), Komela. Sannandaj was it's great stronghold under the revolution. My father defended the city before he got caught and imprisoned, and to be executed.
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Originally posted by Cent

"Zagros, the kurds want a country for themselfs, to be able to rule themselfes. We are not sheeps, and dont need to be rueld by others. Is it so hard to understand? Why do we HAVE to be part of IRAN or IRAQ or TURKEY when we can have our country? Are we not able to do that? Kurdistan will become a reality, whether u like it or not. And when there is Kurdistan we dont have to call us iranians or iraki, we will kaal us kurds, plain and simple."

I totally agree.



Kurds want their own country? or people like you and saywan who follow terrorist idol Ocalan?  That's not even enough to dream about

Kurds of Turkey and Iran won't be seperated because they don't want to.Your kinds are just stooges of other countries, you're not even a handful to take serious and I'm really sorry for you.
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"They did die for nothing because half of them died fighting each other and the others allowed themselves to be used."

Thanks. So that's your view of hundreds of thousands of dead under 1900. For nothing...

What about Kurdish identity? Kurdish independence? They died for that.

They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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"You think PKK would co-operate with democratic Kurds of Iran and Iraq? I don't think so.  And Shia Kurds are more than just 2 million."

Probably not. But KDP and PUK are co-operating. But they still have there differences.

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"And Shia Kurds are more than just 2 million."

How many then? There are like 4.5 million Kurds in Iran.

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Originally posted by Cent

"Azaries, Lors, Gilakis, Mazandaranis, Qashqais and Ilami/Kermanshahi Kurds too, as well as Talyshis and Tats call themselves Iranian too, DONT forget them. "

Actually what I've experienced is that the ones who live in Sweden call themselves after ethnicities not Iranian. Especially Kurds, Lors and Azaries.

Yes, they will probably let you know if you ask them... or they will say Iranian of x origin.
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What do you mean? They have a branch called Pezhak who try to influence Iran's Kermanjis.

Here are the Iranian (Sunni/Sorani) Kurds, they want autonomy, and I support their fight for freedom because it is the same as the fight of every other secular/democratically minded Iranian.

http://www.pdki.org/



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err, do pkk active at iran?

 
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Originally posted by Cent

I'll ask my question again:

"So Zagros, what is your suggestion? That we should give up? Did all our shehids die for nothing? "

They did die for nothing because half of them died fighting each other and the others allowed themselves to be used.

You think PKK would co-operate with democratic Kurds of Iran and Iraq? I don't think so.  And Shia Kurds are more than just 2 million.
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in turkey generaly, 60% of people are voter. So 2 million vote only represent 3-4 million people.

So do you think you just a little exaggerated.?
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Me? I don't know, it's so diverse. Some say 20 million others 10. So I'll say something between? 15?
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Because they are the only ones who with a majority wants to stay. maybe 2 million. Okey, hmm, I did exaggerated. However the MAJORITY wants to separate.

acording to you how many million kurd there are in Turkey?
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I'll ask my question again:

"So Zagros, what is your suggestion? That we should give up? Did all our shehids die for nothing? "
They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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"You are assuming that all 25 million Kurds want a separate state... You're wrong."

Go to Sulaymanya and you'll see. 90% want to separate. Same with Turkey and Iran (sunni part). How many are the Shias there? Because they are the only ones who with a majority wants to stay. maybe 2 million. Okey, hmm, I did exaggerated. However the MAJORITY wants to separate.



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Yes, I know, I said the ones in Sweden. I have no experience of Iran. Because I can't go back yet. And I couldn't when I was younger, becuase my father was banned.
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You are assuming that all 25 million Kurds want a separate state... You're wrong.
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Where did I exaggerating?

They don't speak enough about the Kurds, because we have never taken hostages, never hijacked a plane. But I am proud of this.
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