Fayli kurds

Cent once again, instead of alienate the shia kurds from the bigger kurdish cause, you should instead think of unity. All kurds as one, not more not less. Many of us (the faylis) has been killed in iraq, many of us was sent to iran (370000 70�s-80�s), many of us was prosecuted by the baath, many of us has been and are peshmarga, lets not forget about that my friend. And lets not forget that no one even mentions all those faylis who are still missing, all those who vanished into the thin air. Lets not forget that they confiscated our houses and throw us out of irak.

Many days have passed since the last time anyone wrote here. Now that i am here, i see that the discussions we had on the faylis was completely out of the subject. I myself was partially to blame, but this time i will try to direct the discussions on the right path. 

I have researched about the origins of the faylis quite a bit and will continue to do so. One of the problems of resarching about faylis is the lack of information on the net, or there is information but named differently. For example if you search for topics about Lur you will find a bit more about the faylis. Well so far i can tell you that faylis are Lure kuchak (LITTLE LUR), who have been resided in Pusht-e-Kuh (ilam), and Lure bozorg (i.e. Bakhtiaris) are located at Pish-e-Kuh(luristan). There is a mountainius barrier that divide these two areas from each other.

The story goes that before 6th a.c, they were called plain Lurs, but that changed when two brothers got the power at the same time. Those who decided to be with the elder brother come to be known as Lure bozorg, and the others were called Lure kochak. 

To make you calm i will provide you with prove about my claim to call the Lurs for kurds (or better a branch of the kurdish nation).

"The kurdish nation divides into four branches, each with its own different tongue and customs. First is the Kurmanj, second the Lur, third the Kalhur, and forth the Guran."     The text is from sharafname, book one. You can find it in the prologue section.

If there is any intrest in the subject, please let me know, and i will continue.

*I want to apologize if my behaviour earlier did offend anyone. Bare in mind, i am a Kurd and am automatically obliged to defend and promote anything about kurds. But this time i will not write anything without giving you correct references. And please if you want to refute anything give me the resources that you have used to do so. I am barely a human and am capable of doing mistakes. And if you can prove me wrong in any way and give me informations that dissproves me i will correct myself.

Thank you and have a good day all.

I couldn't disagree more. Btw, Kurds are the strongest opposition in Iran against the regime. How many Sunni Kurds do you see support the goverment? Which people in Iran fought so much against the regime as the Kurds?

Saiwan, how happy you must be! You hold no respect for this forum nor its members. You managed to ruin your image so well. But what ever that makes you happy.

Zagros, friend, don't bother responding to that individual. he only comes here to have his fun at making people angry. I have given him and his buddy an assignment to do, yet I still have to hear confirmation that he is actualy going to do it.

until he brings out the assignment, we should all just ignore him. As I have said before, kids like him don't know any better. I have a funny feeling he has attended neo-con AIE (or similar) conferences about Iran in Sweden, where majority of the people led in are extreme Iran-haters and/or chauvinists.

This kid was told that we (Iranians) don't mind if norther Iraq becomes his kurdish state (even though I personally oppose the idea of Iraqis going to civil war). But no, he wants it all. He is a pan-kurd. Pan-kurds (like pan-arabs..) don't care about other peoples opinions. They are passionate about their ideologies and are willing to kill anyone opposing them, let it be men, women, or children. Now I am not saying saiwan kid is a killer, but people like him who have the balls and are enough crazy have killed and perhaps still killing people across the world for their ideologies similar to his.

you shouldnt have responded to his comment there Zagros. Let him be. let him live in his own world. you very well know that talking to people like him is like talking to walls. All passionate ultra-nationalists are like that. They are willing to LIE in order to spread their propagandas. And like all passionate ultra-nationalists, they start to believe in their own lies.

Kurdish identity will live on as long as there are Kurds, you think just because we want to be a part of Iran we will lose our identity?  My cousins in Kermanshah are Kurds and they are Iranian, they have every cultural aspect expected of a Kurd. Kurds moved to Kazakhstan and East of Iran still speak Kurdish and still retain their culture.  You are using scare tactics here.

Apology accepted, but you have your opinion and I have mine.