Early T�rkish and Europan languages

When you say European languages you mean Indo-European languages I suppose.

But look these maps.

Ba = Basque

C = Celtic

FU = Finno - Ugric

G = Germanic

I = Iberian

IE = Indo European

R = Romance

S = Slavic

U = Uralic

X = Unknown

At the end of the ice age:

in 5 500 BC

In 3000 BC:

Present day:

Reference:

http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/articles/ieorigins/

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Hungarian in my opinion is NOT a Finno Ugriac language but Altai-Uralic language.

This Finno concept is dying fast! This was never true to begin with!

erci

I'm glad that every year you make a great discovery, last time I know you ,you were a Laz, and now you found that you are a pure oguz turk, congradulation.

yes the same as frenchs, people of Peru and Mexico are descendants of Latium conquerers. that's a psycological problem.every body prefer to be descendant of a Turkman warrior not a clever fat greek who choose Islam and Turkish language for benefiting himself and his family or a coarse Anatolian dwellers (like Lazes!!!!) who found that speaking turkish and accepting Islam is a better way for communication than Greek language and orthodox christian.

Thats an epidemic problem, In korea every body have a ancestoral chart that proves that he belongs to a yangban family in Choseon times, all of jews believed that they are sons of Israel.Arabs think that they are sons of Qahtan or Ismael, In United states people are descendants of Miflower ship or those who settled in virginia in 1609.This list can be continued to infinity.

real and pure oguz at the moment are living in Turkmanistan and northeastern part of Iran.I don't know about Anatolian peoples so If you say you are like tham , yes you are right.but Azeries are not like them, and it is very strange for me that how people of Anatolia could be more pure turks than Turks of Iran.

funny problem is that except time of sassanaid and also recent years , population of Anatolia was always higher than Iran.

If people of Anatolia are 90% pure turks then Kurds and Armenian must be 95 % pure turks and Iranian must be 99 % and people of Khorasan (in both Iran and afghanistan) must be 110 % pure turks. so why it is not so?(believe me there has never been a turkish genocide by persian or afghan chuvenists in khorasan)

just a question? do you have any estimation of number of Turkman migration from central Asia to Anatolia and at the same time number of origianal residents in Anatolia in the time of saljuq conquests.just a clue according to persian history books in malazgard number of turkmans were between 15000 to 35000 soldiers,(different sources), and considering that every mature nomad male was a soldier too, I think it is possible to have a basic estimation of real population of them at that time.

Although it is clear to me this discution in the end will lead to mutual insultions (like all of the other times in these few years) and eventualy this discussion will be locked, but I,m still are not satisfied what makes people of Turkey so different from people of Iraq, Iran, India, Egypt, Syria, lebanon, Greece, France, Spain, Mexico, Brazil,........., why you are so pure,so chosen, like a diamond,(was it not because you MUST be pure, because you BELIEVED to be pure,because you MUST be from warriors race)

I would be thankful if after trying your sense of humor or sarcastic comments on me (which will be accepted with ultimate pleasure) , somebody gave a completely invincible reason to end this discussion for ever, and end the doubts of ignorants like me.

Originally posted by erci I thought your language was indo european but i guess Arabs and turks did change alot of things in Iran.read what i posted again

well I answered this issue in my previous post, and about Arabs and Turks yes they changed many things, but not Aryans not Arabs not turks couldn't change that dramatical changes  that is in your mind.

I don't think they could do it in Anatolia , too.

And I have read your post, but it seems that you didn't get what I said.

well my point was that those turks in Anatolia maybe are your relatives than turkmens, (I think they more resemble you than turkmens) their ancestors might prefered to speak Turkish than Laz or other anatolian languages.

an irrevelant question that you have no obligation to answer:

do you know Lazian  and if you know it how it is similar to georgian?