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aryavaeja
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Topic: Iran Israel Alliance Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:25 |
Originally posted by Zagros
such a move i would support if the israelis started treating the palestinians like human beings and supported them for a betetr and more prosporous future. And i don't think they should form an alliance "against" anyone, more to make the region peaceful and stable. |
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the region peaceful and stable? Never . Islam is not a peaceful religion. Arabians are everywhere in middle east: Syria, Liban, Iran ,Palestine, Pakistan.... THIS IS THE WAR !
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:30 |
@Aryavaeja: Pleaseee.... & read AE Rules
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:33 |
Originally posted by Zagros
such a move i would support if the israelis started treating the palestinians like human beings and supported them for a betetr and more prosporous future. And i don't think they should form an alliance "against" anyone, more to make the region peaceful and stable. |
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Persian situation is worst than Israel. you have no more identity in this world. No ones know who you are and see your history as a past. From 1400 years now persians are on Islamic domination.
Islam is not a peaceful religion. arabian are everywhere in Middle east : Iran, Palestine, Liban, Syria... so they must let Persian and jew alone.
Peace is a word who do not exist in the middle dictionary.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:37 |
If your "peace" requires the complete and total extermination or even
domination of another people, Arya, you don't deserve to have it.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:41 |
It seems we haven't Intellectual argument here
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:46 |
Originally posted by Mila
If your "peace" requires the complete and total extermination or even domination of another people, Arya, you don't deserve to have it.
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LOL, you are confused.
Israel is a small country in middle east. Arabian dominated all the ME. Who kill men and women in Iran? answer: arabian (palestinian, libanian...).
Domination is part of the arabian ideology and religion.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:47 |
If Iranians have hated islam so much why dont they just convert back, you guys talk as if Arabs are holding you by a leash and pointing a gun at your heads!
Arabians are everywhere in middle east: Syria, Liban, Iran ,Palestine, Pakistan.... THIS IS THE WAR ! |
in Iran and Pakistan?? really...
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 19:54 |
@Super Goat:Personally, I like my head absoultly not on gallows
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:00 |
Aryavaeja - i suggest u familiarise yourself with our code of conduct and forum rules before posting again. Consider that an informal warning.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:01 |
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Islam is not a peaceful religion. arabian are everywhere in Middle east : Iran, Palestine, Liban, Syria... so they must let Persian and jew alone.
Peace is a word who do not exist in the middle dictionary.
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If you read a little more on Islamic history you may realize that both Persians and Jews had major roles in creating Islam and feel a little more responsible about the current mess. Islam eventually backfired on both of them, and this happened when Iranians and Jews were actually the greatest of allies, at that time mainly against the Romans.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:10 |
Originally posted by Mila
I associate it mainly with the Ottoman Empire and, specifically in Bosnia, we certainly ended up as a greater, wealthier, and more powerful nation. The advantages for us far outweighed the disadvantages so when I look back on history I have no regrets that Islam was introduced, there's nothing greater my people have to look back on a daydream about.
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Sound like you don't believe in Islam as a religion either and just measure it based on how it has helped or hurt particular groups including Bosnians. If people really believed Islam was a religion that has come from god people would have believed in it regardless. Not Arabs liking because it promotes their nationalism, Bosnians liking it because it brought good time to their land or helped them fight the Serbs, or Iranians hating it because it started their period of dark ages.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:14 |
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Originally posted by Mila
If your "peace" requires the complete
and total extermination or even domination of another people, Arya, you
don't deserve to have it.
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LOL, you are confused.
Israel is a small country in middle east. Arabian dominated all the
ME. Who kill men and women in Iran? answer: arabian (palestinian,
libanian...).
Domination is part of the arabian ideology and religion. |
Hey: Arabians were there when YOU, EUROPEAN COLONISTS arrived. I would
agree to some Stalinist or at least Jacobine therapy for the Muslim
mentality but I don't agree to the last European Population colony,
which is not doing any good. 80% of Israeli Jews (according to CIA) are
born outside Israel. Why don't you pack and go back to where you came
from?
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:15 |
Originally posted by Maziar
Originally posted by The Guardian
Originally posted by prsn41ife
Originally posted by The Guardian
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Hi there,
I think Jew and persian should in the futur unite against the arabian-Islamic ocupation in Middle east.
what do you think?
Shalom, bar dorood
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Arabian islamic vs Persian islamic+Jewish Israel.....or arabian islamic+Persian islamic+Nukes vs Israel+Nukes
Which is more likely?I think you know the answer
(by the way if anyone is offended by my expression persian islamic or arabian islamic, I am not trying to offend you)
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most iranians hate islam now, and if given the chance, most would probably convert to bahai'ism.
and iranian israeli alliance is realistic in the future once the mullahs are gone.
and trust me, and iranian arab alliance will never happen. if it was gonna happen it would have happened by now.
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Well, firstly I am not convinced about the whole Iranians not liking islam since they elected Ahmedinecad, and one more thing, those mullahs are Iranians.
So Ahmedinecad=mullah, but Ahmedinecad was elected by the Iranians
By the way, according to the Turkish newspapers here Ahmedinecad made a statement saying Israel should be wiped out, and I belive newspapers are partly reliable sources.
So the future you are talking about is a quite distant one
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"Ahmadinejad was elected by Iranians" , are you sure? it is true, that a minority of extremists have voted for him, but the election suffered under cheats, many votes were disappeared in Nirvana. Ahmadinejad and a few other Mullah's servants like him were the only candidates on the election's list, all other were banned, so what do you expect? All Iranians have known Ahmadinejad will win, becouse the revolutions leader wanted so. Sorry but i can't call this election.
In a free and democracy election would Ahmadinejad have no chance.
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Iran is full of muslims!Muslims get an islamic revulution!Which is why Iran is not a christian state today, or any other, they are muslim. the vast majority of Iran is muslim. My source: Microsoft Encarta 2006
Religious affiliations |
Shiite Muslim | 93 percent |
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Sunni Muslim | 6 percent |
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Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i | 1 percent
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:23 |
Originally posted by The Guardian
Iran is full of muslims!Muslims get an islamic revulution!Which is why Iran is not a christian state today, or any other, they are muslim. the vast majority of Iran is muslim. One of my sources can be seen below:
Religious affiliations |
Shiite Muslim | 93 percent |
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| | Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i | 1 percent
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Yes, and 99% of the Soviets were listed as Communist in 1985
What is your point. Is it that 99% of Iranians have freely selected Islam as their religion and actually believe in it
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 20:31 |
I suggest u learn the real facts of the Iranian revolution before u post more ignorance, i bet you didnt know that even iranian feminists took part in the revolution, it was hijacked by the islamists under their lies and false pretences.
Originally posted by The Guardian
Originally posted by Maziar
Originally posted by The Guardian
Originally posted by prsn41ife
Originally posted by The Guardian
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Hi there,
I think Jew and persian should in the futur unite against the arabian-Islamic ocupation in Middle east.
what do you think?
Shalom, bar dorood
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Arabian islamic vs Persian islamic+Jewish Israel.....or arabian islamic+Persian islamic+Nukes vs Israel+Nukes
Which is more likely?I think you know the answer
(by the way if anyone is offended by my expression persian islamic or arabian islamic, I am not trying to offend you)
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most iranians hate islam now, and if given the chance, most would probably convert to bahai'ism.
and iranian israeli alliance is realistic in the future once the mullahs are gone.
and trust me, and iranian arab alliance will never happen. if it was gonna happen it would have happened by now.
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Well, firstly I am not convinced about the whole Iranians not liking islam since they elected Ahmedinecad, and one more thing, those mullahs are Iranians.
So Ahmedinecad=mullah, but Ahmedinecad was elected by the Iranians
By the way, according to the Turkish newspapers here Ahmedinecad made a statement saying Israel should be wiped out, and I belive newspapers are partly reliable sources.
So the future you are talking about is a quite distant one
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"Ahmadinejad was elected by Iranians" , are you sure? it is true, that a minority of extremists have voted for him, but the election suffered under cheats, many votes were disappeared in Nirvana. Ahmadinejad and a few other Mullah's servants like him were the only candidates on the election's list, all other were banned, so what do you expect? All Iranians have known Ahmadinejad will win, becouse the revolutions leader wanted so. Sorry but i can't call this election.
In a free and democracy election would Ahmadinejad have no chance.
| Iran is full of muslims!Muslims get an islamic revulution!Which is why Iran is not a christian state today, or any other, they are muslim. the vast majority of Iran is muslim. My source: Microsoft Encarta 2006
Religious affiliations |
Shiite Muslim | 93 percent |
| | Sunni Muslim | 6 percent |
| | Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i | 1 percent |
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 23:13 |
iranian muslims are not the same as arab muslims.
most of them arent religous. 2/3 of the population of iran is UNDER 30...
as you can imagine, not much of them is religous. and most of them want good relations with the west and with israel.
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Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 23:38 |
Originally posted by Maju
Hey: Arabians were there when YOU, EUROPEAN COLONISTS arrived. I would
agree to some Stalinist or at least Jacobine therapy for the Muslim
mentality but I don't agree to the last European Population colony,
which is not doing any good. 80% of Israeli Jews (according to CIA) are
born outside Israel. Why don't you pack and go back to where you came
from?
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hear hear. I can't express my support enough
Originally posted by Mila
If your "peace" requires the complete and total extermination or even
domination of another people, Arya, you don't deserve to have it.
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And again.
Originally posted by aryavaej
. Arabians are everywhere in middle east: Syria, Liban, Iran ,Palestine, Pakistan....
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You have no idea. Firstly Arabs not Arabians, Secondly Irani's and Paki's are not Arabs.
Thirdly I think the Israeli should be banned along with a couple of the kafirs.
Every considered, Iran has wanted a theocracy since, at least, Safavid
times. They had a revolution to put one in, and they elected
Ahmadinejad.
Worshiping fire was so popular everyone abandoned it in droves, its a chemical reaction!
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Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 00:51 |
wait...exactly why Iranians and Arabians dislike each other. And
do Iranians consider themselves as Persians heritage or Arab
heritage? (Probably the former I just wanted to make sure).
Howcome Iran became muslim, but Armenia and Byzantium did not? (or why
did Armenia and Rome/Byzantium become Christian while Persians did not)
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Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 01:02 |
Greetings all, good to come back to AE after such a long time.
Originally posted by Maziar
Look at today's Iran's so called allys: Syria! Palestina! Iran support them with money and they side against Iran!. |
Syria sided with Iran during the eight years war of Iran and Iraq. And they still allies to Iran. I don't see where Syria can fits in siding against Iran? Also, what is Palestina? PLO? Must specify.
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Most of the persians are agnotist now and reject islam... Jews are waiting for a democratic Iran. |
There is Democratic Bosnia, Democratic Malaysia, Democratic Turkey (except Army involvement sometimes). You don't have to abondon a religion to be democratic. Also, most Persians are agnostic? based on what statistics?
Originally posted by aryavaeja
Israel is a small country in middle east. Arabian dominated all the ME. Who kill men and women in Iran? answer: arabian (palestinian, libanian...).
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Who kill men and women in Iran? I thought diseases, Mullahs, and drugs. I didn't know they added "Arabian" to the list.
What is Libanian by the way?
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Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 01:10 |
Israel's former air-force commander is also Iranian.
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