December 26th: End of the Soviet Union

Firstly i said almost all.

All these riots cause a bit destabilization only for a year and after that all is back to normal.And they didnt have any effects on the way of live of the majority of the population even that they, for a year or less, caused some thouble

huh, waited 20 min for reply and this is all you can think of.

I'm very disapointed really

You are judging people who done something in some situation while dont think what will happen if someone else is on thier place.how they will maneged to rule the country, how will they threat the peple........

And today much people are suffering(living in the streets and sleeping in muddy pits,tring to get a scrab of money so that they can feed their children while so called busnesmans are stockpiling riches) aswell

But Capitalists are so hypocritical that they just shrug, say it's the victim's fault, talk about "natural selection" (forgetting about the social nature of the human species) or "divine design" (forgetting about the commandements about love and compassion), and look elsewhere. Gulags are worse than widespread misery? Maybe but maybe not. Ideally none of the two should exist.

You make it sound like 'Socialist Gulag vs Capitalist barbarism'. In reality Gulags are not implicit in a Socialist system, there were many Socialist countries without such camps, and USSR had no Gulags after Stalin. Besides, the Gulag system was already in place during Tsars' time in Russia, and we see it in many Capitalist countries in history. Penal colonies, work camps, concentration camps, and extermination camps are all Capitalist or pre-Capitalist 'innovations'.

The right of employment is a human right.Capitalism cannot function without depriving this fundamental right.

Besides, the Gulag system was already in place during Tsars' time in Russia, and we see it in many Capitalist countries in history. Penal colonies, work camps, concentration camps, and extermination camps are all Capitalist or pre-Capitalist 'innovations'.

Again false statement. Gulag system was instroduced by soviets. This what was in times of tsars cannot be even compared to soviet gulag system. Im the last person who would defend russian tsars but it is fact.

Im leaving for ski so you guys can continue your talk about how cool USSR was without being interrupted by such bloody reactionist like me. Good luck.

that's typical. the workingclass has to work hard to earn it's living ,while the leadership spend some nice days with skiing . this would't have happend in socialism.

Thanks Kommnenos, i had a lot of fun

What makes me surprised, Communism is more popular in West than in the East.

Actually it makes sence. Those who didnt test it may live with illusions. Except for Bulgarians who enjoyed it (probably together with the East Germans).

Reading these posts while Slayers "Angel of death" is rumbling in my ears, makes a very morbid scenery. Supporting the Third Reich shouldn't be a problem here for some of these guys. The bloodier rulers are already prefered i see, what is Hitler but just a school boy next to his eastern teachers.
And i don't think tzarist camps are anything comparable to GULAGs. The number of the camps was far greater and i don't think the tzarist soldiers left you naked outside for thumb-sized mosquitos to literally eat you alive or make you run inside snow with your bare feet for rehabilitating reasons. The GULAG was basically a place where every guard had the right to live his wildest fantasies off of you. Every peasant got to hold power there if he had enough heart to kill random people.
The GULAG is an evolved state of the childish tzarist camp system, don't put them in the same category, it is funny in a very sad sad way.

The Soviet Union was a state ruled by blood what are you actually refering to as good there - free medical care and the fact that you were taken off the streets and put to work? I think The Third Reich cured a lot of unemployment for the populous there after the economical crash, the nazis are still the sickest of sick, i so not see the logic here? I don't accept the death of thousands of my people for the chance the USSR got to destroy our peasant culture for a ridiculous collectivization project that failed its utopic ideals in every way.