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Topic: Why does Serbia hold onto Montenegro? Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 10:32 |
Why there are Osmanlica-Bosnakca and Osmanlica-hirvatca dictionaries from 15. century then?
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 10:35 |
Originally posted by DayI
Originally posted by Surbel
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My mother is from Bosnia and Herzegovina and their family never call themself Bosniaks. Not even one Croat or Serb didn't call themself Bosniak and they were born in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Instead you show us some proof(or you think that your word is worth more) you just whant to feel more comfrtable with your version of history.
Remember,you can't change past-or you think that you are TIMECOP
| Why youre crying whole the time that bosniaks didnt exist or didnt call themselfs as bosniak? Do you feel youreself a Serb, be happy with it, also if bosniaks feel temselfs as bosnian and they are happy with, shut ya mounth... | I didn't discover your origin(or i should?)so don't feel so bad,Turkey has the interest in that area normaly,with converting people you have more important alie. That was in Bulgaria,Macedonia,Greek,Serbia,Montenegro,Herzegovina,Croat ia,Hungary .........Bosnia. And one day that kid was born,from that day we call him Bosniak.
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Mortaza
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 10:59 |
Why there are Osmanlica-Bosnakca and Osmanlica-hirvatca dictionaries from 15. century then?
Because there were no serbs
I didn't discover your origin(or i should?)so don't feel so bad,Turkey has the interest in that area normaly,with converting people you have more important alie. That was in Bulgaria,Macedonia,Greek,Serbia,Montenegro,Herzegovina,Croat ia,Hungary .........Bosnia.
And one day that kid was born,from that day we call him Bosniak.
Our interest over bosniaks are not as much as serbs, and our interest is not harmful for bosniaks, unlike serbs.
And not all of Turkey ally at balkain is muslim.
Edited by Mortaza
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:18 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
Why there are Osmanlica-Bosnakca and Osmanlica-hirvatca dictionaries from 15. century then?
Because there were no serbs
I didn't discover your origin(or i should?)so don't feel so bad,Turkey has the interest in that area normaly,with converting people you have more important alie. That was in Bulgaria,Macedonia,Greek,Serbia,Montenegro,Herzegovina,Croat ia,Hungary .........Bosnia.
And one day that kid was born,from that day we call him Bosniak.
Our interest over bosniaks are not as much as serbs, and our interest is not harmful for bosniaks, unlike serbs.
And not all of Turkey ally at balkain is muslim. |
With one word-AVOIDING Illyria Sacrum, Daniele Farlati
Illyria Sacrum is a massive eight-volume history of the Church in Illyria
prepared in the 18th and 19th centuries by three Italian Jesuits, Filipo
Riceputi, Daniele Farlati and Jacobo Coleti. Illyria Sacrum is based on some 300
volumes of raw source materials collected over a twenty-year period. The first
volume was published in 1751 and the eighth in 1819.
Historically speaking, Farlati writes, there are two Serbias. One Serbia is
Primorje or Maritime Serbia. The other Serbia is Zagorje or Interior Serbia.
Zagorje is made up of two parts, Bosnia and Rascia/Raska (partes Serbliae).
Bosnia (pars Serbliae), Farlati writes, like Raska, is a Serb land, an original
and integral part of Zagorja or Interior Serbia. Pore guys what i did,i disturbed you didn't i???
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Mila
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:35 |
Yes, you did disturb us - but not in the way you're
gloating about. It certainly disturbs me that someone
could be so ignorent and blind to the truth.
It's sad that your story changes in cycles. Since
you've been here, it's gone:
Surbel: No such thing as Bosniaks.
Surbel: Bosniaks invented in 1991.
Surbel: Okay, Bosniaks real that's fine with me, but
they're Serbs.
Surbel: I never said there's no such thing as
Bosniaks.
Surbel: Okay, Turks called them Bosniaks, but
they're still Serbs.
Surbel: No such thing as Bosniaks.
Surbel: I never said there was no such thing as
Bosniaks.
Surbel: Look at all my infos and proofs, and not one
from an internationally recognized, respectable
source.
Surbel: Oh, you're all so nervose.
Surbel: Oh, I am disturbing you! I am so pleased.
Get an effing life, my God. You're never going to
change our minds, and we're never going to let you
change anyone elses without a fight - so walk away.
You can refute the history of Bosniaks until you're
blue in the face but I will never back down.
I'll always be there, ready to shove a stecak up your
ass and explain the truth to you in detail.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:43 |
So show it finaly,one stone with name Bosniak One paper with that name,just something You can call even Emir Kusturica..........uuuuuu i got you with this one,hm Mesa Selimovic Mehmed Pasha Sokolovic Tarik Filipovic... If you can admit that you have some Turks blood,fine your ancestors can be Turk too,but Bosniak...cccccc
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Mila
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:44 |
Dance, b-tch, dance. Sing us a song too.
And by the way - Emir Kusturica is a Serb. His family
has only been in Bosnia for two generations.
And Turks blood? Yay! I KNEW you were that kind of
Serb, I knew it in my bones.
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:50 |
Originally posted by Mila
Dance, b-tch, dance. Sing us a song too.
And by the way - Emir Kusturica is a Serb. His family
has only been in Bosnia for two generations.
And Turks blood? Yay! I KNEW you were that kind of
Serb, I knew it in my bones. |
ill_teknique sad that he have some Turks blood,if he sad that he is a half Turk i belive him. Cous if you know they still exist in Kosovo. But you don't have even that , you are a beautiful girl i notice that.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 11:52 |
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 13:05 |
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Mortaza
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 13:39 |
And if Emir Kusturica was for two generations more in Bosnia,he would be Bosniak today?
Yes they would be, do you realy think all serbs have complately serb blood?
Infact If you want to be Turk, It is more easy, come to Turkey, become a citizen, and shout three times, I am a turk, I am a turk, I am a turk.
isnt it easy, you dont have to wait even for one generation
By the way, Sokullu Mehmet was an ottoman, were your ancestors also ottoman? If not you have no relation with him.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 13:43 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
And if Emir Kusturica was for two generations more in Bosnia,he would be Bosniak today?
Yes they would be, do you realy think all serbs have complately serb blood?
Infact If you want to be Turk, It is more easy, come to Turkey, become a citizen, and shout three times, I am a turk, I am a turk, I am a turk.
isnt it easy, you dont have to wait even for one generation
By the way, Sokullu Mehmet was an ottoman, were your ancestors also ottoman? If not you have no relation with him. |
Sokullu who??? Boy,find your self something more propriate for your age.
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DayI
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 13:45 |
Sokollu (sokolovic ) mehmed pasha called himself an Ottoman not a serb, do you call youreself an Ottoman?
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 13:48 |
Surbel he was best ottoman vezir, not best serbian vezir.
do your ancestors ottoman? My ancestors were ottoman, so sokullu was my ancestor.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 14:12 |
Originally posted by DayI
Sokollu (sokolovic ) mehmed pasha called himself an Ottoman not a serb, do you call youreself an Ottoman? |
When i sad,that he call him self Serbian? He was from origin,born in a small vialge near Visegrad-thats what i sad. Boys,history and Xbox it's not the same.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 15:18 |
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 20:30 |
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 21:03 |
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 21:48 |
Originally posted by Socrates
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Coming into this thread having little knowledge
of the ethnic differences in the Balkans excluding religion. I have to
say that the Bosniak (? Bosniak is the ethnic group of people who live
in Bosnia yes?) arguement is much better than the Serbian one.
I have been convinced that the Bosnians are not nor were ever Serbs.
EDIT: What does cetnik mean? |
And what do u know about history of balcans?Do u know that r languages
r the same?I think u're supporting them because they're muslims...in
fact i'm 100% sure that u are.What book about Serbia or Bosnia and
their history have u ever read?I'm sure I know more of your country
then you know of mine( or bosnia)...
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You may know more about Pakistan than I do about the Balkans, I'm just
saying your arguement doesn't make sense while Mila's does. If you
prove to me that bosnians were once serbs, then I'll believe you.
Perhaps you should look up the origin of the word Bosinian or Bosniak. Use several sources to be sure.
You just seem to be yelling at each other without constructing any sort
of arguement to prove your case. This case can only be proven in
History.
What is the first known reference to the Bosnian people?
Why can't you say all serbs are Bosnians?
Why aren't you claiming all Bosnians are Croats?
etc.
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Surbel
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Posted: 23-Jan-2006 at 21:51 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Originally posted by Socrates
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Coming into this thread having little knowledge
of the ethnic differences in the Balkans excluding religion. I have to
say that the Bosniak (? Bosniak is the ethnic group of people who live
in Bosnia yes?) arguement is much better than the Serbian one.
I have been convinced that the Bosnians are not nor were ever Serbs.
EDIT: What does cetnik mean? |
And what do u know about history of balcans?Do u know that r languages
r the same?I think u're supporting them because they're muslims...in
fact i'm 100% sure that u are.What book about Serbia or Bosnia and
their history have u ever read?I'm sure I know more of your country
then you know of mine( or bosnia)...
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You may know more about Pakistan than I do about the Balkans, I'm just
saying your arguement doesn't make sense while Mila's does. If you
prove to me that bosnians were once serbs, then I'll believe you.
Perhaps you should look up the origin of the word Bosinian or Bosniak. Use several sources to be sure.
You just seem to be yelling at each other without constructing any sort
of arguement to prove your case. This case can only be proven in
History.
What is the first known reference to the Bosnian people?
Why can't you say all serbs are Bosnians?
Why aren't you claiming all Bosnians are Croats?
etc.
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02694a.htm Need more,just say!
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