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    Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 15:34

I know it doesn't matter now, (since my ranking won't change anyway), but I could've sworn I but Sven Forkbeard down? Can someone tell me what my answer was?

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 15:31
Originally posted by TJK

Hmm.. I think in case of Q9 you should calculate only second round points..the idea of that system was that question author should be able to earn exactly the same amount of points as any other participant... also  (AP(qw�s pts rd1) / LP(Leader's pts rd1) ) should not be > 1

as the total number of points of the highest scoring player should be calculated also including bonus..

 

I agree that would be more fair - however changing the rules in afterhind is even more unfair. I think we shall look over this before the next part, using this as reference, but we must let the already happened result stay.

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Hmm.. I think in case of Q9 you should calculate only second round points..the idea of that system was that question author should be able to earn exactly the same amount of points as any other participant... also  (AP(qw�s pts rd1) / LP(Leader's pts rd1) ) should not be > 1

as the total number of points of the highest scoring player should be calculated also including bonus..

 

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 14:42
Originally posted by Dawn


Thanks Fastspawn.


I think that maybe there was an error in the scoring on Question9 I'm not sure that I sould have got that many points for the question. If thats the case then the Winner should be Fastspawn. Could you Check it Strybion?  



I'm pretty sure the calculations are correct.


Total Round 1 Bonus = Qsubmitted * (Qanswered / Qavailable)

Qsubmitted = Total number of questions on the Quiz submitted by the player.
Qanswered = Number of questions the player answered correctly in Round 1
Qavailable = Total number of questions available to the player, which is the total number of questions in the quiz minus those that he submitted.

QUESTION WRITERS� BONUS FOR ROUND TWO is given by the following formula:

Total Round two Bonus =
Q(r2) * [ ( AP(qw�s pts rd1) / LP(Leader's pts rd1) ) * LPII(rd2 leader's pts rd II)/(NQLII)]]

Q(r2) = Total number of questions by the player (question writer) that are in Round 2
AP(qw�s pts rd1) = Total number of points scored by the player (question writer) in round one, including his bonus points in round one.
LP(Leader's pts rd1) = Total number of points of the highest scoring player as of round one.
LPII(rd2 leader's pts rd II) = Total number of points scored IN ROUND TWO by the best performing player in round two (disregarding scores in round one).
NQLII = number of question ansered by round II leader in round II (LPII/NQLII =average points for 1 question earned by round II Leader in round II)


Bonus for round one is 2*8/9 ~= 1,778  =>  ~0.889p per question for round one.


Bonus for round two is 1*[ ((10+1.778) / 10)  *  (4/2) ] ~= 2.356.


Points for Q8: 0.888...+2/3 (best question) ~= 1,56.


Points for Q9: 0.888+2.356 ~= 3.24.


Seems correct to me. Although I agree it's a lot of points just for one question...


edit: damn, I've swapped the questions.
Doesn't matter though, the total score is still the same.

Points for Q8: 0.888...+2.356+2/3 (best question) ~= 3.91


Points for Q9: 0.888... ~= 0.89



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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Sep-2004 at 11:36

Thanks Fastspawn.

I think that maybe there was an error in the scoring on Question9 I'm not sure that I sould have got that many points for the question. If thats the case then the Winner should be Fastspawn. Could you Check it Strybion?  

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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 18:06
Dawn congratulations on the win!
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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 13:09

Hmm, that doesn't look too good centered...

 

Seems to be a good idea to send in questions though



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Total Quiz X Part 2 Awards



Moderator awards

Special Guesser Award to fastspawn for cracking the question I found hardest simply by pulling something... <fill in the blanks>

Special Persistency Award to Dawn for never giving up just because having a few more or less totally incorrect answers. Or, we say here, for being bull-headed.

Special Answer Scoring Award is a second award to fastspawn, for wiping the floor (well, swiftly brushing, at least) with the opposition.



Score based awards


Best Question Award is divided between questions 4, 5 and 8. Thus the only one gaining points is Dawn, getting an additional 2/3 points for question no 8.

 

Main Award - Winner of Total Quiz X part 2 for... Dawn

(Result in front page)



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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Sep-2004 at 11:47
well after much thought  (it was a toss up between question 3 and 4  cause its just not right to vote for your own) I liked question 4 the best even if i had to make many guesses. Very difficult and worded well,
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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 21:00
i vote Dawn's Question 8, because it turned out i had the answer in front of me, and i had eyes and could not see.
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  Quote Imperator Invictus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 20:48
Wow, this was a close one. Styrbiorn, I hope you still have those formulas for calculating bonus.
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 16:46

Originally posted by styrbiorn

whoever wrote about Wilhem Tell had a liking for Scandinavian sagas...

just compare the flags of both countries...

 

best question is no.5 without doubt...

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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 15:56

Nice timing, there.

 

Please vote for best question. You have about two days to vote, I'll stop the voting sometime on Monday.



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  Quote Dawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 15:53
well now you get your revenge for the hockey comments. I have to go to work now and wait to find out the answers till later. Anyways good game guys. Congrats.Fastspawn well played. Thanks for running Strybiorn.  
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Total Quiz X part 2 is finished

 

Questions and Answers


Q1: Who was the general who was referred to as the demon of the civil war, sent out to purge and eventually also killed - all by the very same man? (by Kapikulu)
A1: Mikhail Tukhachevsky. The man who did all those things to him was no other than Josef Stalin

Those who answered completely: Janus Rook, fastspawn

 

Q2: Who are the Three Great Unifiers of Japan (by Gubookjangoon)
A2:
Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Tokugawa Ieyasu. Since the Japanese habit of putting the surname first may cause some confusion, I allowed answers were only the first-name of one or two of the unifiers were provided. These three are generally refered to as the Three Great Unifiers, even though the first really did not succeed completely, being assassinated just before. His vassal, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, a peasant's son lacking both home and name until he came into Nobunaga's service, would complete his former master's ambition.

Those who answered completely: fastspawn, Dawn, Janus Rook, demon, boody4, Temujin

 

Q3: This American "adventurist" set out with around 50 men and captured a province of a foreign nation. He quickly lost the territory and was charged for illegally waging war, but shortly after, he set out with another force of about 50 men and seized control of a civil war-torn country, which he installed himself as its president for almost 5 years. Who was he? (by Imperator Invictus)
A3:
William Walker. Link provided by Dawn: Saga of William Walker

Those who answered completelyDawn, Janus, MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

 

Q4: Long-haired revolt leader, fighting for freedom lost against a state known today as a very powerful one. Praised by the same man who wrote about some famous albeit not very succesful horsemen, the revolt shocked the oppressors but was eventually crushed and the leader, whose name we are searching, ended up dead. The mentioned name? (by Styrbiorn)

A4: Boadicea, Queen of the Iceni. With a waist-long hair, this red-head lead a huge revolt against the Roman oppressors. Succesful at first, annihilating the XIth Legion to the last man, capturing Camoludunum (Colchester) and Londinium and slaughtering its Roman inhabitants, the uprising was eventually crushed by the disciplined Roman army at a now unknown location. Exactly how Boadicea died is unknown as well, but died she did, in conjunction with this showdown, either by poison or disease. The man who wrote about her was Lord Tennyson, author of The Charge of the Light Brigade.


Those who answered completelyfastspawn, Dawn

 

Q5: 1. A ruler visited the home of a man who was rumoured to be the best shot of the land, and ended up forcing this man to shoot an arrow through an apple placed at the head of his son - else loose his head. The marksman picked up a few arrows, and shot one succesfully through the apple. First part of the question is, who was the ruler and the marksman, and what was the intent of picking up more than one arrow? 

 2. The marksman brought up a boy of royal lineage. The boy, who apparently had a noteworthy shape of some of his hair, grew up and became a mighty a ruler as his regal fathers, and also became the father of an even more powerful ruler-to-be. The stepson of the marksman died just after getting hold of another noble title. Who was the stepson, and who was his father?

3.The mentioned son of the stepson gained enough power to have himself crowned. The building in which he was crowned have been destroyed on quite a few occasions - which was the last time? (by Styrbiorn)

A5: 1. Toki Palnesson, aka Palnatoki, who was a former hirdman and famous berserk of the king of Denmark. Being as skilled at boasting as with sword and bow - especially after some of his beloved beer - king Harald Bluetooth forced him to proove his showing off about being the best archer in the world  - by shooting an arrow through an apple placed on the head of his son. He succeeded. When the king answered why he had picked up several arrows, Toki replied they were meant for the king, had the first arrow struck the boy. This happened in the late 10th century. The story is to be found in the Jmsvikinga saga and writings of the Danish historian Saxo, but there are doubts whether it is based on an even older story. Whichever it is, whoever wrote about Wilhem Tell had a liking for Scandinavian sagas...

2. The stepson is Sven Forkbeard. Supported by his stepfather, he eventually drove away his biological father Harald Gormsson Bluetooth (same guy as in former question ), to become king of Denmark, and later he also conquered England - although he died only weeks after his throne-seizing.

3. Svein's son Knut the Great ("Canute" in English) ended up being king of Denmark, England, Norway and parts of Sweden. He was chrowned in no other building than the cathedral of St Paul, which's last event of destruction was the Great Fire of London in 1666.

 

Those who answered completely: Dawn, fastspawn

Those who answered partially: Janus Rook, Temujin

 

Q6: Jebe was one of Chinggis Qa'ans best commanders and soldiers. what was his real name and what does Jebe mean? (by Temujin)
A6: real name: Jirkho'adai (many possible spellings). Jebe means 'weapon'(?), 'arrowhead', 'arrow'

Those who answered completely: Dawn, fastspawn, demon

Those who answered partially: Janus Rook, boody4

 

Q7: This person had arranged for him/her to be buried in Westminster Abbey lived to become unnaturally old. (by Glinert)
A7: Thomas Parr, living to an age of 153 years. The man got married his first time at the age of roughly 80, and did penance at the age of 100 for producing an illegitimate child. His age was famed, and he was brought to London to meet the king. However the environmental change and filth of the city killed him, and the king arranged for him to be buried in Westminster Abbey. Link here

Those who answered completely: fastspawn, Dawn, Janus Rook, demon

 

Q8: In what year and in what department did the English "government" start consistently making copies of it's letters (by Dawn)

A8: 1199. " ...systematically maling copies and keeping them." "the Chancery clerks began to keep copies ,on rolls of parchment,of most of the letters- and certainly all of the important ones-sent out under the great seal."

Those who answered completely: fastspawn

 

Q9: It was in September almost 90 years ago. It's a story of imagrents,rum running,murder, a pair of hangings and maybe a little romance. Stories,plays and songs have been written about it the most recent, a play with songs. An "Emperor" was involved and an officer of the law was mudered. A woman was one of those exacuted,the only one in the history of this area.Who was the lawman,the emperor,and the woman. when and where did the murder take place. (by Dawn)

A9: The shooting of constable Steve Lawson by Emperor Pic-Emelio Picorillo and Florence Losandro took place on September 21,1922 on the main street of Coleman Alberta. (Just Out side of my[Dawn's] house) The Opera is called Fillamena. Florance was the only woman hanged in Alberta and one of the last in Canada.

Those who answered completely: fastspawn

 

 

Q10: In 1118 the Knights Templar Order was founded by Bernard of Clairvaux. Who was the first Tempalar Grand Master? When is the feast day for Bernard of Clairvaux? (by rider)

A10: Hugues de Payens, 20th of August

Those who answered: fastspawn, Dawn, Janus Rook, demon, boody4, Temujin, MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli

 

Q11: Which early American film director was charged of attempting to create a mutiny and was subsequently jailed? What did he do that got him in trouble (by Imperator Invictus)

A11: Robert Goldstein. He directed "Spirit of '76", a film about the American Revolution that portrayed the British in a negative way. President Wilson thought that such depictions of a war Ally was unacceptable and thus had him arrested. (He remained in jail until 1923).

Those who answered completely: fastspawn, Dawn, Janus Rook

 

The results, still without bonus incalculated, can be seen on the front page.



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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 14:36
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Originally posted by Dawn

don't worry somuch about the outcome of the ame Canada is going to win the Cup anyways

I'll pretend I didn't hear that, and not take away two of your points

ok if you must but you still can't change the facts and besides the fins have got "Kipper the keeper" yousweeds don't stand a chance.

Seems so. He's impossible to score on. Our goalies are crap. Doesn't help with the best attack in the world if the defense is a sieve....

edit: WOA. Equalizer with 10 seconds left.  I thought it was over.

 

Which the quiz is. Answers soon.



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Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Dawn

don't worry somuch about the outcome of the ame Canada is going to win the Cup anyways

I'll pretend I didn't hear that, and not take away two of your points

ok if you must but you still can't change the facts and besides the fins have got "Kipper the keeper" yousweeds don't stand a chance.

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fastspawn, you got both correct. Dawn, guess again.



woopee!!! For a moment there i though i was not in luck, and actually did the quiz when the time passed by.
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  Quote Styrbiorn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Sep-2004 at 13:44
Originally posted by Dawn

don't worry somuch about the outcome of the ame Canada is going to win the Cup anyways

I'll pretend I didn't hear that, and not take away two of your points
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don't worry somuch about the outcome of the ame Canada is going to win the Cup anyways
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