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    Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 04:59
what battles did result in biggest casualties? (give casualties estimates plz)
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For the 20th century you can find an extensive list here:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/battles.htm
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Check the Guinness Book of Records site. I thought they mentioned Stalingrad as the bloodiest battle with over a million casualties, but you'd better go there yourself if you want to be sure.
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Gallipoli Campaign 04 November 1914-09 January 1916

Turks and Germans; 345.000 Dead

Britain,Commonwealth,France and Dominions; 187.000 Dead

Total: 532.000 Dead

Individual Battle; Ariburnu Trumpet Offensive 19 May 1915; 18.000 Turks dead in 5.5 Hours

The British lost around 55.000 in one day during one of their offensives in 1914, in France...
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This is the other version;

    1. Gallipoli, World War I (19 Feb. 1915-9 Jan. 1916): 131 000
    2. Wikipedia:
      • Allies: 44,072, incl....
        • UK: 21,255
        • Aus.: 8,709
        • NZ: 2,701
      • Turks: 86,692
      • [TOTAL: 130,764]
    • Ellis & Cox, World War I Databook ("Dardanelles")
      • UK: 18,000 k.
      • Aus.: 8,100 k
      • NZ: 2,700 k
      • India: 1,360
      • France: 27,000 all casualty types
      • Turks: 86,700
      • [TOTAL: ca. 123,600]
    • 22 Nov. 2003, Courier Mail (Queensland) and Herald Sun (Melbourne), AU
      • UK: 21,000 k.
      • Aus.: >8,700 k
      • NZ: 2,700 k
      • France: one third of 27,000 [=9,000]
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    I concur with Stalingrad...Just watch "enemy behind the gates" and facinate yourself with the amount of corpses
    Grrr..
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    Gettysburg maybe be for one of the biggest  casualties
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    		  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 10:24
    so i guess title of bloodiest battle goes to stalingrad...some ideas about bloodiest battles in older ages?(swords era) estimates very inaccurate for most battlesso....guess?
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    Agincourt at 100 years wars  can be bloodis ar sword age  check this

    http://www.azincourt-alliance.org.uk



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    The number of Turkish deads at Gallipoli was 55,000; not an obscure high number Gallipoli gives. Gallipoli's numbers incluede the wounded, lost, captured, dead from disease, etc too.
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    No Ihsan, I am fed up with discussing this with you. The total number of dead were 310.000 for the Turkish side.How many times do I have to prove this?
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    hmm,

    your sources above quote:

    Wikipedia: Turks: 86,692
    Ellis & Cox, World War I Databook ("Dardanelles"): Turks: 86,700


    Where are you getting 345,000 from? 

    ...but yeah, I agree with you in that its definately more than 55,000

     
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    [quote]

    Agincourt at 100 years wars  can be bloodis ar sword age  check this

    http://www.azincourt-alliance.org.uk[/quote]

    it says only 5,000 died at Agincourt.. there were way more battles that were bloodier, even in sword age..
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    Okay okay. By the way can we add the invasion of normandy at 6/6/1944
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    Originally posted by John Doe

    hmm,

    your sources above quote:

    Wikipedia: Turks: 86,692
    Ellis & Cox, World War I Databook ("Dardanelles"): Turks: 86,700


    Where are you getting 345,000 from? 

    ...but yeah, I agree with you in that its definately more than 55,000

     

    Turkish Military History Branch. I know a Major there. He told me that the registered number of KIAs was 55.000. However the uncounted fors' are more than that. And how can you explain this; 510.000 soldiers went to Gallipoli only 130.000 of them got out for service again?
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    		  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Sep-2004 at 16:03
    What about the battle at Issus?  When Alexander the Great defeated Darius.  I have heard accounts of up to 300,000 casualties.  While these are probably exaggerated, most authors agree that there were at least around 100,000 people killed.
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    at Salsu, there were 300,000 casualties on the Sui side alone..

    Sui invaded Koguryo with 1.138 million men but the navy was destroyed, the army couldn't take Laiodong, all the while they were low on supplies, so they sent 305,000 of them straight to Pyungyang. who then died, and only few thousand went back.

    there ya go.. most casualties in sword era so far
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    Originally posted by Arkhanson

    Okay okay. By the way can we add the invasion of normandy at 6/6/1944


    Normandy, World War II (6 June-19 Aug. 1944): 132 000
    • D-Day Museum [http://www.ddaymuseum.co.uk/faq.htm#casualities]
      • Allies:
        • Ground forces: 37,000 d. whole battle
        • Air forces: 16,714 d.
        • Buried in war cemeteries:
          • US: 9,386
          • UK: 17,769
          • Canadian: 5,002
          • Poles: 650
          • [Total: 32,807]
      • Germans: 200,000 K+W
        • 77,866 buried in war cemeteries.
      • French civilians: 15-20,000 k.
      • D-Day (6 June) alone: 2,500 Allied KIA, incl. 1,465 USAn and 340 Canadian
    • CBC: 5,020 Canadians k. [http://www.cbc.ca/news/dday/]
    • [Est.: 37T+17T Allied + 78T Ger.]
    That makes it the 23th worst battle of the century
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    Hmmm thanks alot to every one
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    Originally posted by Gallipoli

    No Ihsan, I am fed up with discussing this with you. The total number of dead were 310.000 for the Turkish side.How many times do I have to prove this?

    You ever heard of the wounded/injured, casualties from disease, lost (ie unknown whether survived or not), captives and others?
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