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demon
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Topic: The best siege unit in middle ages Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 08:59 |
What do you think was the best siege unit in the middle ages?
It can be either for anti siege, or anti unit. You tell
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 09:39 |
a ballistae or a trebuchet
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 14:59 |
Roman (Byzantine) Biffa perhaps?
The Chinese also had some obscure and nice siege weapons
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 15:00 |
There are obviously more effective seige units but I think the H'wacha is te coolest.
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 15:18 |
Yay for Shingichun Hwacha! Fire about 200 arrows or 100 bullets
at the same time...hell of long time to reload, but who cares...I like
the arrows better than the bullets...see if you load fire arrows,
arrows with packets of gunpowder attached to them, you fire them all
and then an arrow gets stuck in a guy...he's like WTF and pulls the
arrow out...and then the fuse runs out and his hand gets blown
off...isn't it great?
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 16:57 |
All of the different catapults has their uses and disadvantages.
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 18:23 |
Trebuchets were effective I think
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 20:25 |
there are alot of forms of trebuchet, they are the dominant siege weapons of the day, which one are you talking about?
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 20:34 |
When I think castle killer I think the English(correct me if I am wrong) trebuchet.
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 20:42 |
The trebuchet. I have to figure that these games keep making the trebuchet the highest level siege weapon for a reason.
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Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 05:26 |
there are alot of forms of trebuchet, they are the dominant siege weapons of the day, which one are you talking about? |
something that has the mass of this
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Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 11:52 |
Being the cannon maniac that I am, I would have said bombards if I had not known how horribly unreliable they were. In this case, my vote goes to the man-powered light traction trebuchets--they were excellent anti-personnel weapons when loaded with large bunches of small stones in addition to being effective against timber fortifications and even some light stone walls. They were also very widespread, ranging all the way from China to the farthest tips of England and Spain. Coming close behind are the bolt-throwing springalds or espringals used in the defence of cities and large castles.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 17:57 |
It is intresting that some historian claims that some kind of trebuchet was used by Romans (under the name trabutium)...
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Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 04:14 |
what would it be like...
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Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 08:46 |
If it existed--a proposition that is still storngly in doubt--I think it would look like the Chinese traction trebuchet. You'll find lots of pictures of it on the net, especially on http://members.iinet.net.au/~rmine/gctrebs.html (The Grey Company Trebuchet Page).
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Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 08:48 |
Trebuchet, the one in AOK...
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 13:53 |
Are there any differences between Trebuchets and Mangonels?
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 15:12 |
I also wonder that...
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 16:12 |
What is a manogel?
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Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 16:52 |
I've got some good links to every occidental siege weapon:
http://xenophongroup.com/montjoie/ngp_arty.htm
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