Koreans and Aryans

Originally posted by Tobodai I think the new Korean reich should have a kimstaka instead of a swatika and its made with a cabbage leaf.  I honestly dont know who in their right mind would A, take founding myths as fact and B, think the British and the Koreans are the same thing, but hell, hey are both good at sinking invaders on the sea at least. Korean tea is however much better than British tea, it often has this slight popcorn flavor I cant place.  Hence I call it popcorn tea.  I find it intresting whenver someone claims their country is of the master race, they usually come from a frequently conquered nation.  If theres anyone left on this thread willing to argue Koreans are some kind of master race I would like to hear the explanation for why a master race gets conquered so often by its less masterfull neighbors.  I remeber using this tactic on an Iranian guy and him having no effective response...

Actually there is a good argument that your Iranian friend could've made.  Military success isn't the sole determinant for the greatness of a people.  Isreal had been bullied around for the past few millenia, but they see a sudden surge of success in recent history.  We cannot deny their influence in big academic fields: Eintein in physics, Freud in psychology, and Marx in sociology.  The ideas of these three guys have tremendous influences in not only the intellectual history, but in many other areas of the life of the 20th century.  Hence military success alone doesn't make a people great.

Bottomline, though, is that no one is truly superior (this is so cliche.)  I wouldn't say the Jews are a "master people" because of their recent success either.  Nor would I call any super military power a "master people."

I think the new Korean reich should have a kimstaka instead of a swatika and its made with a cabbage leaf.  I honestly dont know who in their right mind would A, take founding myths as fact and B, think the British and the Koreans are the same thing, but hell, hey are both good at sinking invaders on the sea at least.

Korean tea is however much better than British tea, it often has this slight popcorn flavor I cant place.  Hence I call it popcorn tea. 

I find it intresting whenver someone claims their country is of the master race, they usually come from a frequently conquered nation.  If theres anyone left on this thread willing to argue Koreans are some kind of master race I would like to hear the explanation for why a master race gets conquered so often by its less masterfull neighbors.  I remeber using this tactic on an Iranian guy and him having no effective response...

Originally posted by jamesse Originally posted by KoreanEmpire Not true. Koreans are Koreans. This is true. However, I do think that Koreans are mixtures of different people but still restricted to East Asian. Just look at their faces, we can conclude that they are a mixture of, from the North, Mongolians, Manchus, Tungus, just say the Altaics. And from the South, to a certain degree, Southeast Asia and Southern China. But I cannot tolerate the idiotic nonsense saying that Koreans are related to Indo Europeans. I would rather believe that the Japanese Emperor is a real god. Originally posted by KoreanEmpire We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god. According to the legend, yes. But I doubt that ALL of us are his descendants. Originally posted by KoreanEmpire That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race. I really wish that was so.      Come on, I thought Korean historians weren't as depraved as the Japanese.   Originally posted by KoreanEmpire But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan. In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. What the....? Ridiculous. http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm I actually checked the link above. It is true that they have some interesting facts but they are way too nationalistic and wishful thinking. This kind of obvious nationalistic hoax just makes Korea's image hit the bottom. However, once in a while one or two foreign people appear in Korean history. For example some Arabian traders who decided to just live in Silla or Goryeo. But we don't even know if they married and continued their blood. Some Mongols, Malgal or Mohe, Georan or Kitan, through invasion and assimilation. Well but then they might genetically have not much difference from the Koreans. There also is the wife of King Kim Suro, the founding king of Gaya, who is from the Indian kingdom of Ayuta. Again, I doubt the proabability but people could not have just put her in the history for no reason. "In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans."     Please, don't make Korea anymore ridiculous. It'll make us no different from the Japanese.

sorry, jamesse, this koreanempire dude is full of it, just like the Chinese and Japanese extreme nationalists.  They distort history and nothing else because they all have a POLITICAL agenda for what they claim.

He doesn't represent Koreans any more than the right-winger Japanese nationalists represent Japan.

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire Not true. Koreans are Koreans.

This is true. However, I do think that Koreans are mixtures of different people but still restricted to East Asian. Just look at their faces, we can conclude that they are a mixture of, from the North, Mongolians, Manchus, Tungus, just say the Altaics. And from the South, to a certain degree, Southeast Asia and Southern China.

But I cannot tolerate the idiotic nonsense saying that Koreans are related to Indo Europeans. I would rather believe that the Japanese Emperor is a real god.

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire We are all descendants of Great Tangun who was the grandson of god.

According to the legend, yes. But I doubt that ALL of us are his descendants.

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire That is the reason why Korean race is called Holy Race.

I really wish that was so.      Come on, I thought Korean historians weren't as depraved as the Japanese.
 

Originally posted by KoreanEmpire But it is possible that the ancient Koreans migrated to Europe became Aryan. In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans.

What the....? Ridiculous.

http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~kbyon/culture/sanggo.htm

I actually checked the link above. It is true that they have some interesting facts but they are way too nationalistic and wishful thinking.

This kind of obvious nationalistic hoax just makes Korea's image hit the bottom.

However, once in a while one or two foreign people appear in Korean history. For example some Arabian traders who decided to just live in Silla or Goryeo. But we don't even know if they married and continued their blood.
Some Mongols, Malgal or Mohe, Georan or Kitan, through invasion and assimilation. Well but then they might genetically have not much difference from the Koreans. There also is the wife of King Kim Suro, the founding king of Gaya, who is from the Indian kingdom of Ayuta. Again, I doubt the proabability but people could not have just put her in the history for no reason.

"In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans."     Please, don't make Korea anymore ridiculous. It'll make us no different from the Japanese.

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hey i didn't know koreans were big on tea..

Neither did I.  I thought Koreans preferred to drink canned coffee.

Faulty logic.  What you said is called incorrect negation.  For example, "if it is a cat, it has fur."  Does it mean if it's NOT a cat, it has no fur?  That's incorrection negation.  (I just like to point out faulty uses of logic.  I'm really not a part of this debate.  Carry on.    )

  I was wondering if any forummers passed Geometry.

Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery?

I don't know...but if English decended from Koreans, they should have a strong taste for chili sause that is nearly in its boiling point. 

The word 'race' has many contexts, and it is indeed possible to speak of a 'Russian race' in the traditional context of the usage of the word (basicly implying 'ethnicity or nationality' or simply 'a people'). Its not all skulls and noses.
Though many nationalists do convieniently mix traditional and modern contexts together, making for some amusing (if not dodgy) tales.


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Originally posted by Cywr In fact, ancestors of english people were Koreans. Does that explain the English obsession with tea and snobbery?

Damn straight.

Originally posted by Gubook Janggoon IMHO Homogenity is a nice myth. We're probably the descendants of many groups of people including the Yemaek and the Han.

I dun wanna turn this into a "everyone let's love everyone" thread, but I do believe there is Korean blood in the Han population as well.  Case in point, a group of Koreans were transferred to China during Tang (have no freaking clue why.)  Heck, I might be a descendant of them.  I'm often mistaken as Korean (especially by middle age Korean women, but they were probably just wishful.)

you know what? i like korean girls...

OMG.  Still obsessed with tiffany?

If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex.

So, if they don't, it would prove Koreans don't have inferiority complex?

Q: When did Aryans start to scatter? A: We can respond to this question through the language they spoke. From a linguistic standpoint, Aryan language has influenced the entire world and Korean language contains around 200 Aryan words. You must know that Koreans are totally different from Japanese and Chinese. We may find tall Koreans with blue eyes but we rarely find such cases in Japan or China. Therefore, Aryans have even affected the Korean culture. Ancient Persian terms are also used in West and North Europe -- Finland and Hungary. If we follow up the roots we will find that Aryans had not started to scatter even in the fifth millenium BC.

I'm not sure if there's korean with blue eyes, but there's korean with big eyes- particularly among the Anyang Hong family.  I don't know if it counts though, but I've read an article about a traditional Korean folk song called "Arirang".  There's a lot of versions, depending on region, so I'll focus with one.

The title basically means, according to the article, a song about Ari.  Not sure if it's Aryan, or has anything related though.  But it's very mysteriouly strange- there has been many interpretations to this song. Check one of the lyrics:

-Ari ari rang Suri suri rang arari ga nat ne

Ari and Suri were born in Arari(ari river)

Who knows?  Could be.

Originally posted by Scytho-Sarmatian If Koreans really do think that they are the ancestors of English people, that would PROVE they have an inferiority complex.