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demon
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Topic: Ancient Chinese Army Posted: 20-Aug-2004 at 13:42 |
Just a ditto of "Ancient Korean Army", I would like to know some of their machines, weapons, and stuff, If they had any.
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Bryan
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Posted: 20-Aug-2004 at 17:58 |
Here's a site for some Chinese swords for the different dynasties... http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/
If they had any? Grrr...
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Tobodai
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Posted: 20-Aug-2004 at 21:41 |
They sure had stuff, but it was nothing compared to steppe equipment, that is until the Chinese adopted some of that steppe equipment
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MengTzu
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Posted: 20-Aug-2004 at 23:46 |
Hey Tobodai,
That's nonsense, everybody knows that the Chinese invented the most powerful mao bi. Oh, wait, that's the caligraphy brush. Nevermind.
Peace,
Michael
8-20-2004
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Tobodai
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 01:26 |
lol Im just kidding, China has invented alot of great war stuff like gunpowder, trebuchets, crossbow etc etc, but this was more medieval then ancient so I dont think it applies to this thread so much.
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 04:40 |
Originally posted by Tobodai
lol Im just kidding, China has invented alot of great war stuff like gunpowder, trebuchets, crossbow etc etc, but this was more medieval then ancient so I dont think it applies to this thread so much. |
actually the crossbow's not medieval at all, it is in europe, but not in china. The crossbow was around since the Han dynasty.
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demon
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 07:29 |
Calm down buddy, it was meant to intregue you to post No offense intended
EDIT: BTW, did Chinese had flamethrowers?
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fastspawn
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 09:28 |
Originally posted by demon
Calm down buddy, it was meant to intregue you to post No offense intended
EDIT: BTW, did Chinese had flamethrowers? |
A modern flamethrower? No. A device that spews flames yes.
Even the english used a device similar to a flame spewer in the Hundred
years wars. Its quite simple really, get a log split it in two, stuff
in it flammable liquid like oil, put one of those accordian like
blowers at one end and a dry flame on the other end.
Push the log (hopefully you had put it on rollers and a roof to prevent
archers) up to the very wooden gate. Once within reach, press the
accordian, pushing out all the oil, igniting them into a massive flame
at the other end and burning the gate down.
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Hwarang
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 11:42 |
Didn't they have the firelance?
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MengTzu
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Posted: 21-Aug-2004 at 17:06 |
Who needs any of this? The most important weapons of Communist China are mind control and calling its people "threats to the security of the state" whenever they don't agree with the state. (sorry, may be I should take my sarcastic criticism elsewhere.)
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Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 10:51 |
The Chinese were using Greek Fire (naphtha) in naval warfare by the 10th century, about 300 years after the Byzantine Empire discovered it. What I'd be interested to know is whether this spread to China from the West, or was developed indigenously.
Demon, you'll recall from an earlier discussion on CHF that I believe that the Korean 'Gema' armoured cavalry (which is actually the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese 'kaima', meaning armoured horse) were adopted by the Chinese from the Xianbei nomads slightly before the Koreans adopted it (i.e. in the 4th century AD).
Also, babyblue says that the crossbow was around in China since the Han dynasty, which is still understating it. In fact, the crossbow was developed during the Warring States period.
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Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 14:55 |
Hey Yun,
What is "kaima" in Chinese script?
Peace,
Michael
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Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 15:52 |
"In fact, the crossbow was developed during the Warring States period."
Thats still an understatement, its been around since the spring and autumn period.
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Posted: 23-Aug-2004 at 15:57 |
Originally posted by demon
EDIT: BTW, did Chinese have flamethrowers? |
Even in the Three Kingdoms period their are legends of them having machines that spew fire.
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demon
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 05:25 |
Demon, you'll recall from an earlier discussion on CHF that I believe that the Korean 'Gema' armoured cavalry (which is actually the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese 'kaima', meaning armoured horse) were adopted by the Chinese from the Xianbei nomads slightly before the Koreans adopted it (i.e. in the 4th century AD). |
Well, that's a hard call, becasue Koguryo had a different mechanism of creating iron compared to rest of China. Maybe they immitated their armor but didn't copy exactly.
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Posted: 24-Aug-2004 at 06:16 |
Originally posted by MengTzu
Hey Yun,
What is "kaima" in Chinese script?
Peace,
Michael
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well...i believe it's "kai" as in "kaijia" or "hoikap" and "ma" as in horse
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Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 00:48 |
Kaima: 铠马
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Posted: 22-Dec-2005 at 14:29 |
Military formations of ancient China.
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cattus
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Posted: 22-Dec-2005 at 23:45 |
Let me ask you dej, if you were going to encounter a force, equal or equal to greater in size.. which one of these formations would you choose?
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Posted: 23-Dec-2005 at 07:18 |
Originally posted by Yun
The Chinese were using Greek Fire (naphtha) in naval warfare by the 10th century, about 300 years after the Byzantine Empire discovered it. What I'd be interested to know is whether this spread to China from the West, or was developed indigenously.
Demon, you'll recall from an earlier discussion on CHF that I believe that the Korean 'Gema' armoured cavalry (which is actually the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese 'kaima', meaning armoured horse) were adopted by the Chinese from the Xianbei nomads slightly before the Koreans adopted it (i.e. in the 4th century AD).
Also, babyblue says that the crossbow was around in China since the Han dynasty, which is still understating it. In fact, the crossbow was developed during the Warring States period.
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Could i just ask you, where did you get this information from as to where the chinese were using greek fire, because i do not recognise any of those information from what i have seen previously out of my sources, so could you give sources as to where the chinese were using greek fire, i mean the first REAL! gunpowder that was used was in china way earlier than that of the western couterparts. Forgive me for interrupting your comments and im not changing the subject at all, im just saying that everyone knows that the earliest fire weapon was used in china, whether its flame thrower or gunpowder.
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