Armenian western Lands?

Originally posted by xi_tujue the turkish goverment supports the gold search and even gives you 2 soldiers to help you for like 40% of teh cut

Bastards!!!! Genocide continued!!

 

Guys Armenia is a city state that is nothing for Turkey. Don't waste your time.

 

Exactly, Armenia is a tiny country that cant do sh*t against Turkey, I don�t know why some Turks are scared�

 

However, did you have to call Armenia city state? Now I think of Corinth  

Edited by mamikon - 27-Jan-2007 at 18:20

Nationalism is a sickness, now I am sure of it.

You are correct, Armenia can do "a lot of stuff", but Turkey can do hell of a lot more

PS: How do you suppose we are going to get our lands back? dont get me wrong, I would love to see those lands back. But I would not like to see 6 million people be displaced because of it, then I would be no different from those who carried out the Armenian Genocide


Edited by mamikon - 27-Jan-2007 at 19:25

Originally posted by Feanor Nationalism is a sickness, now I am sure of it.

i dont know how (YET) but if u go around tellling turks that they can do a lot more then Armenians we wont do anything and ur not much of a help for our couse. how did we get Artsakh when azerbaijans army was 3 times bigger then ours had more weapons and they had mujjahadin warriors from afganistan fighting for them.

Originally posted by xi tujue 2. I hear that the "Kurds" of North-east Anatolia are accualy of armenian descent who converted to Islam.

     Many of them are. My father's aunt who lived in Istanbul used to travel to Anatolia to take Armenian children who only spoke Turkish and had Turkish names. She let them live with her and she raised them as Armenians. These people know they are of Armenian descent, they know their grandparents were forced to convert to Islam, but living in Turkey where minority rights are not really protected they have no way of going "back to their roots" so to speak. There are tens of thousands, and maybe even hundreds of thousands of people like this. And these are only the people who know their family history...imagine how many non-Armenians there are who don't know that their families were Armenian before WWI (Armenian orphans given to Turkish families, etc.).

     In fact my dad told me a very funny story about this. Two of his Armenian friends in Lebanon travelled to Turkey. They were in some coffee shop and were speaking Armenian to each other. When the people there found out they were Armenian they started trouble with them. A fight broke out and these 2 Armenian guys beat the crap out of about a dozen men. When the Turkish police chief of the area showed up all he saw was 2 Armenian guys standing and around a dozen people layed out, and he said "what kind of Turks are you to let 2 Armenians beat up a dozen of you?", and just completely embarassed the people who were beaten, and told them not to bother calling the police to handle their business. Then he takes the 2 Armenian guys in a corner and says to them in Turkish, "These idiots don't know that I'm really Armenian!", and they all started laughing. The guy's first and last name were Turkish and he only spoke Turkish, but look what he did when he could have easily arrested those 2 Armenian guys.

     Sadly that police chief is one of many who cannot go back to their roots, as life is easier in Turkey when you are not a minority.

Originally posted by apesako MAMIKON UR A TRAITOR TO UR COUNTRY ARMENIAN CAN DO A LOT OF STUFF TO TURKEY. AND 2ND OF ALL WE WILL GAIN OUR LANDS BACK, KAM MAH KAM AREVELYAN HAYASTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     Like many Armenians you like to dream. Think about reality. The land is always there. What Armenia needs NOW is a reformed government and economy, a way to make life easier for the average Armenian. We need to find out how to use political leverage against foreign influence. We don't need a mafia who kisses Russia's ass to rule Armenia. You live in Armenia, don't you know this? Yerazi mech mi abrir (don't live in a dream).

Originally posted by apesako i dont know how (YET) but if u go around tellling turks that they can do a lot more then Armenians we wont do anything and ur not much of a help for our couse. how did we get Artsakh when azerbaijans army was 3 times bigger then ours had more weapons and they had mujjahadin warriors from afganistan fighting for them.

     I agree Artsakh fighters are the bravest sons of our nation, but how do you compare Azerbaijan to Turkey? Armenia is like a child who beats another child (Azerbaijan), and now you want it to start a fight with an adult (Turkey). Turkey is 10 times bigger than Azerbaijan, 10 times more land, 10 times more people, but military is maybe 100 times stronger. We are Armenian, our soldiers are brave, but we are not invincible. We can defend Armenia against Turkish occupation, but that doesn't mean we can attack Turkey with success.

Edited by ArmenianSurvival - 27-Jan-2007 at 20:41

Originally posted by mamikon just wondering, but what makes me a traitor?

you have a healthy dose of realism


Edited by Leonidas - 27-Jan-2007 at 21:13

Originally posted by apesako I am not telling we should invade now im telling dont act like turks are bettter or stronger then us.

     No one is better or stronger than anyone else. Whoever uses their strengths better and has more determination will win.

Originally posted by apesako and ya ur right our goverment is a puppet to russians. and we need revolution becouse i dont know where are we going like this.

     I don't know either. But yes we need a revolution to get rid of this corruption. Now we are speaking the same language. We need a bloodless coup (or maybe blood of Kocharian and his mafia).

they say the defence minister serj sarkisyan is going to become the next president. what are ur thoughts about this

Originally posted by apesako hey say the defence minister serj sarkisyan is going to become the next president. what are ur thoughts about this

He is an asshole, and a crook

Forbes in Armenia has reported that he is one of the 10 richest people in Armenia, with net worth totaling more than a billion dollars, equaling Armenia's state budget. He probably will become the president based illegal balloting.