Whiners

Could you give characteristics of "Whiners"?

There's no real objective definition. These are people who seem to you to be generally truthful and not too detestable, but took every opportunity to whine about whatever annoyed them. Liutprand of Cremona is the ultimate whiner. He whined about Marozia and her pornocracy instead of actually doing something about it, and he whined when he was sent to Byzantium about whatever the Greeks did. He was a good historian, but he whined a lot.

There's no perfect definition. That is why this is in Historical Amusement.

Bernard of Claiveaux might qualify...

What did Isaac Asimov whine about? Are we thinking of the same Isaac Asimov - the one who wrote I Robot and stuff?

Edited by gcle2003 - 31-Jan-2007 at 06:34

Originally posted by gcle2003 What did Isaac Asimov whine about? Are we thinking of the same Isaac Asimov - the one who wrote I Robot and stuff?   I can't think of any famous whiners, though I know a few non-famous ones.

I actually got that impression from a history book of his I read once. After I read about Liutprand of Cremona, I said to myself, "sounds like isaac azimov". Later I added Patrick Henry, and my father suggested Confucius, and I had a list going.

Liutprand of Cremona a whiner? Definitely!

We could say the same of Edward Gibbon almost, but he comes across more as an accuser on his high horse than a whiner.

I agree completely. Another loser (Not perhaps a whiner) is Elizabeth Bishop. Talk about having one hell of an ego; the stupid whinger would sit in a dark room for hours at a time trying to think of the next word to put on to her already bad, unoriginal and unimaginative poetry!

Hmm... This would be an interesting opportunity for me to engage in phsychanalysis. You predicted my rebuttal before I had a chance and then replied to that (predicted) rebuttal before I had a chance to even make the rebuttal. Call me Sherlock but that smacks of an impatient man...