Do you believe that Turkey will enter EU

I voted for never. In my opinion:

Because Cypru rejected the plan (was from UN and not EU) that does not mean that they don't want the solution. You  accepted because it was for your interest. If the plan said Turkish army and Turks resident abandon the island would you accepted? And there are two decitions of UN that declare the occupation illegal. And you must abandon the island. Did you accepted it? NO of course. So leave that crap about Anan plan. It was written by your allies USA and UK. Not UN. Talat was opposed to Denktas? lol and Talat is following peacefull politic? propably I am leaving in a different planet. Because I always thought the threat of war not peace. Thats new. I am not sure that i understand your last sentence. can you explain. Stop threaten your neigbors with war and stopviolating your neigbors borders (yesterday 12 dogfights took place in Aegean, over the island of Amorgos. All the turkish aircrafts were sent back by the HAF)

Edited by perikles - 06-Feb-2007 at 11:29

Yeh and reading your comment's I can see why you have a "Burn the Jew" traditional festival.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

Edited by Bulldog - 06-Feb-2007 at 15:32

Its just as cheap as labelling 70-80 million people because 40,000 read a book, plus reading Mein Keimph doesn't make you a racist, infact reading it helps you understand what a sick man Hitler was and for Turks they can find out they are officially according to Nazi doctrine, "Untremench", ie sub-human degenerates, in the same category as Jews, Gypsies, Black peoples and so on.

Originally posted by Antioxos Originally posted by Bulldog Yeh and reading your comment's I can see why you have a "Burn the Jew" traditional festival. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Can you give some more information (and sources) about this "tradition"? Other wise is very cheap propaganda that you cannot prove it (as usual). If somebody is a fascist (Greek Turk or ever) is becoming for other reasons not because of these "traditions".

Bulldog

Originally posted by Antioxos Originally posted by DayI Originally posted by konstantinius Originally posted by DayI It is very normal for Turkey to protect his interests by all his means.  Absolutely. No one denies Turkey this right.  Agression in the area and the threat of war against all your neighbors is a different thing. That go's to the same category, to protect your interest you must be able to take any possible risc's to anyone. And Greece or any other country has absolutely the right to complain about, if they go further they know for what they go for. I would expecting something more constructive  from the Turkish elite but now i can understand why  the Turkish  edition of Mein Kampf was reported to be a bestseller in Turkey in March 2005.

How do you bind those 2 totally unrelated subjects with eachother? What has mein kampf todo with Turkish policy in mediterrean sea? As far as I remember mein kampf isnt a book for strategical policy's or something.

Really I think some Greeks should read that book once to understand what actually Hitler's tought was on "�ndermenschen".

@Denis, i think you are rather a racist then a nationalist tbh.

Originally posted by Bulldog Perikles Because Cypru rejected the plan (was from UN and not EU) that does not mean that they don't want the solution. You  accepted because it was for your interest.   Excuses, excuses, excuses, the Turkish side had much more to loose. We all know what happened last time Cyprus became a unified state, Eoka, Enosis, Akritas wipe the Turk out plans, Junta's, anarchy etc etc   There was a plan of unification and today there isn't, the ball's in Greek Cyprus' court. Papadopolous is screwing up, there will be two states and it will be thanks to him.     And there are two decitions of UN that declare the occupation illegal. And you must abandon the island. Did you accepted it? NO of course. So leave that crap about Anan plan. It was written by your allies USA and UK. Not UN.     Wake up man.   Greek Cyprus rejected the UN plan, if they had accepted it there would be no TRNC today but a unified Cyprus and Turkey would have lost her guaranteur right so they could have carried out their enosis without fear of intervention.    and Talat is following peacefull politic? propably I am leaving in a different planet.   I think you are     Because I always thought the threat of war not peace.   Yep you are on another planet.

Exactly right.

This thread is not about Cyprus. A casual glance over at the banned list of topics will show you all that.