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    Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 13:19
Originally posted by Turk Nomad

Ataturk is yellow haired and coloured eyed,may be Kipchak Turk huh?Turks are not a one geography race like chinese.

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İf we intrudced him correctly to them,they will.This is our mistakeConfused
 
I disagree, what Ataturk did is complately related with Turkey, not Turkic world.
 
Ataturk effected kurds more than central asian turks. So why do you think, central asia turks will accept Ataturk as their leader.
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So does of the ALL Turks of Turkey consider Mustafa Kemal as their father?
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absolutely not, but majority respect him much.
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Originally posted by Mortaza

İf we intrudced him correctly to them,they will.This is our mistakeConfused
 
I disagree, what Ataturk did is complately related with Turkey, not Turkic world.
 
Ataturk effected kurds more than central asian turks. So why do you think, central asia turks will accept Ataturk as their leader.
 
Turkiye Kurds(today) mostly dont like him =(
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I know, but fact is fact. They are effected more than central asian Turks.

 
Maybe Turkey should stop to trying asimilate them, then they will like Ataturk more.
 
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Originally posted by Feanor

Originally posted by Turk Nomad

Ataturk is yellow haired and coloured eyed,may be Kipchak Turk huh?Turks are not a one geography race like chinese.

Be realistic.
    
 
 
Be ralistic?
Ottoman Empire set tatars(ethnicly kipchak) to belkan.And they yellow haired,coloured eyed.
Here is proof:(Sorry,only Turks can read)
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Nomad most of Balkan Turks are blonde that doesnt make them Tatar. For example in Northern Dobruca there are Turks and Tatars and they dont accept that they are exactly same. To many Balkanians mixed eachother, dont forget that too. There were some blonde Ottoman Padishahs(Non-Tatar)
 
About C.A. Turks: I have a Kazak friend. When he just come to TRNC he kicked Ataturks photo from wall and he said ''We dont need new Stalins''. Becouse they dont know/care him.
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Originally posted by Turk Nomad

http://www.tarihcilerinyeri.com/viewtopic.php?p=12682#12682

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Did Ataturk have children? if so, biological or adopted?
 
No biological sons...And no adopted sons either..All of them were females.
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Originally posted by Feanor

Originally posted by Turk Nomad

http://www.tarihcilerinyeri.com/viewtopic.php?p=12682#12682

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Actually i had a membership for that. But they kicked me outOuch
 
And Kapikulu i couldnt understand what do you want to mean?
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Nomad most of Balkan Turks are blonde that doesnt make them Tatar. For example in Northern Dobruca there are Turks and Tatars and they dont accept that they are exactly same. To many Balkanians mixed eachother, dont forget that too. There were some blonde Ottoman Padishahs(Non-Tatar)
 
About C.A. Turks: I have a Kazak friend. When he just come to TRNC he kicked Ataturks photo from wall and he said ''We dont need new Stalins''. Becouse they dont know/care him.
 
Atatrk was ethnicly Turk,ı am saying again.We are not a one geography race.
 
I am talking about this!İn CA Turk countries,they know him communist or anti-islam.And don't like him.
 
We must introduce him,Turks are one.The saver of Anatolian Turks also saver of the alll Turks...I think.
 
Today's tatars are Turkic but in Crim,there are some tatars accepted Tatarism,they accept they are Turkic but they are making tribe nationalism!=)
 
 
Ataturk may be have Tatar blood.
 
"Don't trust the man who isn't your blood"
 
                                                                                Mustafa Kemal Atatrk


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Atatrk was ethnicly Turk,ı am saying again.We are not a one geography race.

Ataturk, like all other human beings in the world, was a genetic mixture.

Originally posted by Turk Nomad


I am talking about this!İn CA Turk countries,they know him communist or anti-islam.And don't like him.

He was not Turanist either, was he?


    

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I think he was.I heard he has word about Turan,I will search for you ok?

And he has a word abou communism:
 
Komunizm Trk dnyasının en byk tehlikesidir,her grldğ yerde ezilmelidir!
 
Communism is the biggest enemy of the Turk Wolrd,it must be crushed where it seen.
                                                Mustafa Kemal Atatrk
 
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Originally posted by Turk Nomad

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"Don't trust the man who isn't your blood"
 
                                                                                Mustafa Kemal Atatrk
 
Well with that kind of thinking i can understand the actions of Erkut's friend.
 
To stay on topic i remember several years back on Turkish TV there was a man who wanted to change his surname to 'Atatrk'. He was rejected on the claim that only Mustafa Kemal has the right that title. Although the man argued that he was infact the son of Mustafa Kemal Confused
 
I cant remember whether it was Abdurrahim or some other person. Does anyone else remember this case?
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Erkuts khazakh friend know him as a communist =(.
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Communism is the biggest enemy of the Turk World, it must be crushed where it seen.

Ataturk would say this when Soviets were supporting our independance?

That statement was disproved by a calligraphy expert, by the way. Ataturk didn't say that.

You are right about one thing though: Ataturk was not a socialist, communist, anarchist etc.



    
    
    

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Or CommunistThumbs Up
 
When soviet risk happened,the president was İnonu ı think.
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When soviet risk happened,the president was İnonu ı think.

What do you mean?
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Communism is the biggest enemy of the Turk World, it must be crushed where it seen.

Ataturk would say this when Soviets were supporting our independance?

That statement was disproved by a calligraphy expert, by the way. Ataturk didn't say that.

You are right about one thing though: Ataturk was not a socialist, communist, anarchist etc.



    
    
    
 
 
This is Ataturk word,you can see it univeristy in Erzurum.On the gates.
 
When soviets understanded Ataturk isn't a communist,stooped helping us in our fight,they supported Enver against Ataturk
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