Pope's gaffe?

Originally posted by DukeC I just found out two of my cousins are getting ready to deploy to Iraq. They're brother and sister in the American army, he's in Armor and she's a nurse. Say what you want about Christianity and Western culture, we still have many young people who believe enough in our way of life to put their lives on the line.   Goodluck and godspeed to all of them in Iraq and Afghanstan.

Originally posted by pinguin   Muslims are violent people.   That's the message they transmit, anyways.   I am particularly shocked about Madrid's attacks because most people that died were civilians that opposed the intervention on Iraq. And I was also shocked by the attacks on Russian civilians, particularly that school full of children.   Is any way Muslims could become civilized at last? How come we must respect a people, like Muslims, that keep killing civilians at random around the world?

talk about bigoty, first hand example right there^

thats a shameful post pinguin

Edited by Leonidas - 15-Oct-2006 at 08:51

Pinguin

believe it or not u have a lot in common with the terrorists, and that is generalization. All Christians are evil vs al Muslims are evil. Not a healthy state of mind. A perfect recruit.

Originally posted by Leonidas Originally posted by pinguin   Muslims are violent people.   That's the message they transmit, anyways.   I am particularly shocked about Madrid's attacks because most people that died were civilians that opposed the intervention on Iraq. And I was also shocked by the attacks on Russian civilians, particularly that school full of children.   Is any way Muslims could become civilized at last? How come we must respect a people, like Muslims, that keep killing civilians at random around the world? talk about bigoty, first hand example right there^ thats a shameful post pinguin

 

Originally posted by red clay     Just one of many, unfortunately, and even more unfortunate, not only are his attitudes being tolerated, but in some instances defended.

Edited by Komnenos - 15-Oct-2006 at 16:28

Relegious fanatism and religious terror are very bad things.

Relegioun push people that have low educational standard to act violent. Christians done that in middle ages and now muslins done that. I can't understood why are you not accept that. Nowadays the most fanatics are the muslins. They are attacking innocent civilians.
USA army or Israel army are not better than the terrorists of Al kainta etc. They killing innocent people. You see that human life has lost its significance. In order for political reasons they don't care, muslins or christians, how they will die.
See what is happening in Iraq, Lebanon, Madrid, London, NY etc.
And pope he just read what an emperor of the BYzantium said. When Korani saying that kill those who are not believe what christians should do?

Originally posted by pinguin Originally posted by Mortaza Well, when violence spread generalizations start. Let's hope things calm down so toleracy has a chance. Otherwise you are going to see things change fast from a tolerant attitude to the extremes.   Violence will not calm down.   By the way, Spanish or russian civilians are not more innocent than iraqian or chechenian civilians.      I can agree on that. People should realize how many civilians have died in Chechenia and the Middle East because of military interventions of foreign powers.   We are not talking of innocent states on here, but of civilians killed at random.   Pinguin

I think he is trying to say, If a chechen kill russian, It is bad, but at least It has some reason.(Like most probably this chechen met a lot force.)

If a rus kill chechen, It is bad, and It has not any reason.

Perikles

"Right now their religion makes them so fanatics"

Are u oblivious to everything other than religion that makes them so fanatical "Right now".

I will clarify further what Mortaza has tried to convey on my part fully.

I DONT think the life of a Russian is any less important than a Chechen's. Those in Beslan were Ossetians and not Russians, they were providing bases for the aerial bombing of Chechnia among other things. Some Chechens lost their marbles after they lost the 30th or 50th member of their family, they couldnt care less wht happened to themselves or the devils that helped the Russians do this to them. Is it justified NO, can i Understand Y what happened, happened, YES. + There is a lot of suspicion surrounding the military operation in Beslan.

Chechen freedom was cursed by OIL since day one.

Originally posted by pinguin Ghandi didn't have to send anyone to kill or to be kill to win India's independence.

He caused the death of millions!