Do you believe that Turkey will enter EU

Originally posted by Alparslan Turks have lived together with many religions and different cultures from the beginning.

yeah as equals right? 'in peace and harmony' as long as the ottomans/turks were at the top.

 

Originally posted by Alparslan Ask to a Swedish for example such as "when did you have a mosque in Sweden?"

apsarslan, why choose to pick on Sweden? it has a multicultural policy. You could of chosen Austria or Germany, even better France they suck at stuff like this, but sweden?

 

 

Originally posted by Alparslan We also learn from the link above that "But while the mosque has been a target for attacks since its founding, ......"

so what? Australia and Canada have even better policies, but there still is racism in our countries. multiculturalism is a government policy that accepts plurality within its own people and seeks way to manage that. If segments of the population don't accept that, it has nothing to do with the policies. The difference being the government policy, not unavoidable racism which already exist everywhere.

That article also talks of Islamic radicalism amongst some of the immigrant youth, the same bigoted attitudes that despise the concept of plurality and they aint ethnic swedes..

  

Originally posted by Alparslan What kind of ideology can be florish from Swedish political culture? Basically racism, social Darwinism, fascism.... You shouldn't be suprised if you can have sterilization program to "improve Swedish society" until 1970s' by the hands of Social Democrats.... Imagine what kind of people can be Swedish racists.

Australia use to take the kids of our aboriginals and raise them amongst white families, at the time they thought they were dong the right thing. Such things are unimaginable today in this country. My point is, we all have ugly pasts full of misguided actions and they have little do with the debate, so talk about today if your want to be relevant.

 

Originally posted by Alparslan Once you are infected with nationalism which was flourished by Europe there is no way to turn back. Turks get the infection at the latest stage. But we still preserve some values of our past multicultural society of Ottoman Empire which was the last classical empire of the world history.

What values, please educate me on what values that are persevered? The Turkish republic AFAIK, has none of those ottoman multicultural traits, in your constitution (like the French) turkey is indivisible right? everyone is a turk and turk is the language. No millet system , no pluralism, no multiculturalism.

 

Originally posted by Alparslan That is why we can walk in the funeral shouting "we are all Armenians" in the streets after a Turkish Armenian journalist is killed. More than 100.000 people.... Many more could not participate the funeral since it was a working day.

I was very impressed, such displays of sympathy can only bode well for the future

  

Originally posted by Alparslan Even if we have lost some values of our past, we are still more tolerant, civilised than European societies. I do not expect you accept it. In fact I do not care if you accept it or not. I am only saying my opinions.

we can agree to disagree here

But no one is more civilized than the other. Its a very unhealthy way to view the world.