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vulkan02
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Topic: Greece+Serbia vs Turkey Posted: 07-May-2005 at 21:29 |
If such a war happened without any other nation getting involved who
would win? My bet is on Turkey since it has a very powerful American
influenced military.
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Posted: 07-May-2005 at 21:48 |
Well first you said if no other countries get invovled, but then you say turkey because of American influece? Doesnt the AMerican influence count as someone getting invovled?
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Alexander of Macedon
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Posted: 07-May-2005 at 22:23 |
Turkey will win
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 04:58 |
I think he means no further influence..
and Turkey will win
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 05:13 |
Originally posted by Alexander of Macedon
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I am sure if sth like that happened you and your Slavic friends would join Turkish military from day one, Al.
Btw what kind of signature is this you put there, Al? Is it my imagination or is your signature map contains Areas of other countries like Greece and Bulgaria??? This is called propaganda Al, sth which is too common upon your Slavic people. So considering what has happened in the past here with a flag of Cyprus, do us a favor Al. and get rid of it.
I am sure noone here appreciates members having as signature maps containing areas of other countries.
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aknc
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 07:15 |
OOOOOOOh this is intersting!Greece has a strong navy and is powerful as turkey with aircrafts.Istanbul-open target!But Turkey is in the top 7 for the number of soldiers,tanks,navy and airplanes so tough!If we survive the loss of whole istanbul we will win.Greek military is strong,we would definatly have to rebuild istanbul
Izmir-i don't know.Overall,I think it'S like first world war war,a country with strong navy and economics against one with strong land miliyary(expt we have aircrafts,and we are close to greece)
Really hard,but i vote turky
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Gazi
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 09:26 |
Originally posted by aknc
Izmir-i don't know.Overall,I think it'S like first world war war,a country with strong navy and economics against one with strong land miliyary(expt we have aircrafts,and we are close to greece)
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You are suggesting that the Ottoman Empire had a strong land army? Its army was numerous but they didnt have proper weapons or even a proper training.
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aknc
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 10:07 |
Turkey,not the ottoman empire!
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Kenaney
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:02 |
We OWN them like we did in 1071, 1453, 1923, 1974
I know it feels hard but still We are the champions, we are the champions, YOU are the losers but WE are the champions
A suggestion let them fight with best weapons they have and we with just hand-guns still we would win.... no chance for greco-serbs
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:22 |
What about 1821? DId you win that year too? If your not going toi really add to the posts, then please to not participate,
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AyKurt
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:23 |
Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are
easier to reach. Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and
Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then
they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere
less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the
Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force
through a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it
would be an easy victory from then on.
Also another factor is civilians. Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side.
I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.
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AyKurt
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:24 |
I have no idea why i just participated in this stupid thread
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aknc
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:56 |
Originally posted by AyKurt
Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach. Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on. Also another factor is civilians. Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side. I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.
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Yeah yeah,but our border in thrace is extremely strong,my grandfather was with the army,and he told that we sent troops to the border during te cyprus event,but never called them back
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AyKurt
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 14:02 |
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by AyKurt
Greece is much smaller territorially
than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach. Most of Greeces
military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there,
however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces
there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be
forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish
forces alone Turkey would force through a weaker defended Thrace,
once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on. Also another factor is civilians. Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side. I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.
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Yeah yeah,but our border in thrace is extremely strong,my
grandfather was with the army,and he told that we sent troops to the
border during te cyprus event,but never called them back |
ok, one week to get through the Thrace then and one more week to finish the Greeks off
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strategos
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 14:03 |
Originally posted by AyKurt
Greece is much smaller territorially than Turkey so the targets are easier to reach. Most of Greeces military is on the Thrace and Turkey would suffer great loses there, however if Turkey was smart then they could divide the Greek forces there by attacking Greece somewhere less obvious where Greece would be forced to defend thus weakening the Greeks and by the size of Turkish forces alone Turkey would force through a weaker defended Thrace, once thats accomplished then it would be an easy victory from then on. Also another factor is civilians. Obviously they will get involved and again numbers is on Turkeys side. I would give it two weeks for Turkey to get through the Thrace and maybe a week after that to finish Greece off.
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I have heard that on the Thracian boarder it is divided by a river, and that the Greeks have the highground, and the turkish side is on lower ground. I do not believe the turks couldp ush over the river, and then Up to the highground.I have not seen the boarder, but what if the bridge or bridges are blown out. How do they cross under constant fire of greeks?
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AyKurt
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 14:11 |
A couple of options.
the first would be to attack Greece elswhere like i said to force the
Greeks to pull some troops out of the Thrace to defend other parts of
Greece, the other option would depend on how the war would start.
Turkey could mount a suprise arial attack which would weaken the
installations there.
Also if most of Greeces forces are on the Thrace then that would leave
ther rest of Greece vulnerable. If Turkey attacks a less defended
part of Greece then the Turks could fight on two fronts of the Thrace,
coming from behind as well as on the border.
Either way the Turks would be victorious.
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aknc
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 14:41 |
Greece will put up a good fight if we attack by land.we have so many aircrafts,first we should strike from the air.After thay get over the effect of the first strike we attack!But i don't know the situation and the quality of the land army of greece wiich is strong i assume,if we win,it'll take like year or more
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 14:42 |
Where else, my friend, could they attack? Send their ships through the "shark infested" waters of the Aegean, full of greek ships and missles? Thrace is the only place to realistically attack, except for the islands but the islands closest to turkey would have no major impact on the outcome of the war. If turkey could get by in thrace, then prehaps they could win the war.Who says that Serbia will not cross through Bulgaria to fight the tuks on northern thrace? there are many options.
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vulkan02
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 17:38 |
I heard somewhere that Turkey was preparing to invade Serbia with ground troops during the Kosovo conflict. Is this true???
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Posted: 08-May-2005 at 23:27 |
Man, is this topic pathetic or are the people that have posted TOTALLY IGNORANT???????
In any military conflict, providing that other "powers" aren't involved
the basis of difference is military equipment and strategic positions.
NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!
I suggest our dear pro-Turkish friends give us a list of available
military targets, how they can (if they can) disable them, what the
"anti-weapon" to the S300 is and exactly how they will if not disable,
avoid it, what they can or will do about the ARTEMIS, how they can get
through the islands of the Aegean, their available fighter planes and
what type...................
War these days isn't, I have 20000 you have 2000, these kinds of
battles were 500yrs ago, today it's all about strategic positions and
ADVANCED military equipment.
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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