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    Posted: 23-Dec-2006 at 12:34
That was amazing Aegeus.
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Thanks for all the music links guys (and gals?). I'm so fuc..ng homesick right nowBroken Heart
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Originally posted by Zagros

You can see classical Iranian instruments in use in this clip of Kurdish music from Kermanshah (Nazeri) and Sanandaj (collaborating with Kamkars). Santoor is also there.
 
Watched it all - thank you.
 
Manoochehr Sadeghi, improvisation at the dastgah of Esfahan, Iran:
 


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Originally posted by Hellios

A short piece of traditional music - I won't call it Greek or Turkish - you decide.
It's a traditional Anatolian lullaby, performed by somebody of Anatolian origin, and Turkish words are heard.
The instrument, called "santouri" in Greek, is of Persian origin.
An image of Istanbul appears behind the stage often...
 
 
Rgds. 
 
Very nice.  Not easy to do both (play & sing) well at the same time. Clap
 
Something interesting: it's a lullaby but some lyrics are about children being taken away... Cry


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Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk:
Kazantzidis' songs

And look him playing turkish music/Fidayda
Very nice music!!!!

The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton.
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    You can see classical Iranian instruments in use in this clip of Kurdish music from Kermanshah (Nazeri) and Sanandaj (collaborating with Kamkars). Santoor is also there.


Kamkars & Nazeri
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Originally posted by Hellios

Kinda harsh & untrue but Patrinos deserved it.



Ephestion seems to have more knowledge about music from us guys...
    

Edited by Patrinos - 19-Dec-2006 at 04:33
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The Greeks Developed the Theory which remains more or less unchanged till today. The little inventions we make stemming from the theories change from one generation to the next. Anyone hava an Ice box or Record player?
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Ancient Greeks kept themselves busy inventing terminology while leaving invention of things to other nations (just kidding) ;)
 
Kinda harsh & untrue but Patrinos deserved it. LOL Wink
 
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Well, yes. The problem is in different explanations of your facts Smile Ancient Greeks kept themselves busy inventing terminology while leaving invention of things to other nations (just kidding) ;)
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Originally posted by Anton

Originally posted by Patrinos

Originally posted by Anton

And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word
You did it for us[IMG]smileys/smiley17.gif" align=middle>       


Actually, I did it for you.


Actually I wouldn't say anything false....just facts
     
    

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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Clearly Greek.
Originally posted by Anton

Clearly "Greko-Turko-Serbo-Croato-Albano-Bulgaro-etc.etc.etc".-nian music. Those kind of motives you may find in any country south of Danube. And I suppose in Romania as well. Very soon people in this forum will start to discuss who invented Harmonic minor -- Greeks or Turks. And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word Wink 
 
LOL Anton, I think Hidden Face simply meant that he thinks it's a Greek song. Smile
 
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Originally posted by Patrinos

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And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word

You did it for us
      
 
Actually, I did it for you. Smile
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And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word

You did it for us
      
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Originally posted by The Hidden Face

Clearly Greek.   
 
Clearly "Greko-Turko-Serbo-Croato-Albano-Bulgaro-etc.etc.etc".-nian music. Those kind of motives you may find in any country south of Danube. And I suppose in Romania as well.
 
Very soon people in this forum will start to discuss who invented Harmonic minor -- Greeks or Turks. And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word Wink
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hmmm the chinese equilevant is smaller and they play it realy fastthe plucked version is a nother instrument Turkish its called Kanun(not a original turkic word prob persian or arabic)

"Kanun" derives from the Greek word κανων(Kanon)='measuring rod; rule'.
Kanun is also simiral to Psalterion
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Originally posted by Zagros

It is the ancestor of the piano.
 
That means the piano is of Persian origin. Thumbs Up 


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hmmm the chinese equilevant is smaller and they play it realy fast

the plucked version is a nother instrument Turkish its called Kanun(not a original turkic word prob persian or arabic)


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I have never seen the Chinese version, but there are several styles - the use of this instrument is diverse around the Iranian geographical area (various tribes and people using it). How diverse is it in the Far East? If it is limited only to China then it is probable that it definitely is Near Eastern in Origin.

The only similar Chinese instrument I can think of has the strings plucked rather than hit with the hammer, though I don't know what it is called.
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They could be possible. It makes sence but cab you find a chinemen the agree Tongue
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