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Topic: Greco-Turkish music & dance Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 17:45 |
Look, what I have found. A Turkish horon from 1978 and a Greek horon from 1980s. See the resemblance:
Turkish horon:
Greek horon:
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 16:42 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
Bah, I deleted older post mistakely.
n ot mentioning blacksea music and dance is big crime! Of course, blacksea means kemence and horon.
some good kemence.
and horon!
Erkek sallaması.
Again horon. |
kusura bakma usha'um, saw the post of patrinos and replyed to him with a link. Mortaza can you "horon tepme"?
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 15:18 |
Bah, I deleted older post mistakely.
n ot mentioning blacksea music and dance is big crime! Of course, blacksea means kemence and horon.
some good kemence.
and horon!
Erkek sallaması.
Again horon.
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 14:31 |
Extremely good DayI!!
I've seen on TV a Turkish who played excelent tubeleki,but I don't remember his name,I've heard that he is considered one of the best.Do you have in mind to who I'm refering?
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 11:50 |
Very nice DayI!!
Baglama has a very Turkish sound for my ears,and I like it a lot.
Is he famous in Turkey?Orhan Osman.
He plays rebetika here in the City.
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Sagapo by Orhan
A very good solo
Thats sound very Greek to me
I see a lot of people in the magazi( ) where he sings,I know that many Greek who visit Turkey go there.
And a difficult question for you : Who is better buzukcis? Orhan(see solo link ^) or Nikolopoulos... difficult ehh??
Edited by Patrinos - 04-Jan-2007 at 12:00
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 09:31 |
Originally posted by Patrinos
Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk:
Kazantzidis' songs
And look him playing turkish music/Fidayda
Very nice music!!!!
The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton. |
Nice links thanks. I whasnt aware that this guy (ismail YK) could play baglama so very well, also i learned he could play baglama on his 4th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s37ct0pXLbQ
more likely he sings songs like this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K3n6wMs8k
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Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 19:48 |
Originally posted by konstantinius
Is that what karagounides means? The inhabitants of Thessaly? |
Yes,thats how they are called.Read more here
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Karakaan have a few meanings: "Those who flee to snow" is one meaning. Another meaning may be"the black runner".However it'smostly used as a commonname given todonkey in Turkey |
The "black-kara" its seems to exist since they wore black fustanellas and the tradition says that they started to wear black after the fall of Polis when they started to flee to Agrafa mountains to escape from the slavery.
So the Ottomans called them(and one of my ancestors ) so and thats how they are known when they spread to all over Balkans.
Thanks kotumeyil
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Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 18:38 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Karakaan have a few meanings: "Those who flee to snow" is one meaning. Another meaning may be"the black runner". However it's mostly used as a common name given to donkey in Turkey. |
you try to explain with using modern Turkish, kara does means also "land", just check other places called with kara in it like "qaraqumlum" desert in somewhere china.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 13:42 |
Karakaan have a few meanings: "Those who flee to snow" is one meaning. Another meaning may be"the black runner". However it's mostly used as a common name given to donkey in Turkey.
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Posted: 02-Jan-2007 at 19:06 |
Originally posted by Patrinos
Karagun...thats how Ottomans called the inhabitants of Thessaly...
And as "karakaan" a Greek nomad group.I've read that karakaan means 'those who flee to uncultivated lands',correct?
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Is that what karagounides means? The inhabitants of Thessaly?
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 13:57 |
Karagun...thats how Ottomans called the inhabitants of Thessaly...
And as "karakaan" a Greek nomad group.I've read that karakaan means 'those who flee to uncultivated lands',correct?
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 11:17 |
karagunes = black sun
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 10:51 |
Kotumevil,what "karagneş" means?
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 06:33 |
Originally posted by Patrinos
Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk: Kazantzidis' songs
And look him playing turkish music/Fidayda Very nice music!!!!
The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton. |
That guy plays baglama/saz very well
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 05:56 |
This is a video of Turkish street musicians using santur; once I recorded music with the santur player:
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Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 00:13 |
Now that's culture, tradition. I find the posturing through the dagger ritual very similar to caucasian(from caucases) posturing in their dances.
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Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 18:39 |
Topic changed from "Greco-Turkish music" to "Greco-Turkish music & dance".
Video (below) of some dances of Cappadocia, Turkey.
First minute is boring, until the girls start the more coordinated/interesting motions.
Costumes are nice.
At 2:55 music & dance tempo increase.
At 3:40 music changes & 2 men start some war dances with daggers.
At 4:45 swords are used.
At 5:50 music changes again & groups of men & women start a religious dance that begins slow & gets faster.
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Posted: 23-Dec-2006 at 20:05 |
It sounds so eastern. The turk/greek team sounded fantastic.
Zagros, if u want to listen to another variation of santoor try kashmiri.
This has given me an idea for a new thread.
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