Zahi Hawass fed up with Racial Politics and lies

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim Nubian's aren't black. Unless you can show me evidence of a migration from West Africa at some point, they don't share any physical characteristics with West Africans so I don't see on what basis you are calling them black. Are you suggesting that just because there skin colour is darker than a European they are black? Or that just because they are from the African continent they are black? If you are that is incredibly uneducated. If a group of Tamils came and settled on Africa somewhere do they become black? Modern Nubians are called Arabs. Are Arabs black? If Nubians are black, and as we know Nubians are Arabs are Lebanese black? And if Lebanese are black then, based on skin colour, we can conclude that the English are black too. I mean, lets just invent some random labels and apply them to everyone while we're at it. 'Blacks' as used in modern language refer to west africans or people descendent from west africans, like Americans or West Indians. Nubians are not, and never have been related to west africans. It doesn't matter a rat's ass what their skin colour is.

The Egyptians are apparently very sensitive about not being considered Black. Remember their outrage a few years ago when Lou Gosset Jr was chosen to play Anwar Sadat? But both men have basicly the same skin color.

I'd like to see Hawass address those issues's I presented better than what he has been doing. Since aparently he is the Over Lord of all that is in Egypt.

First, do you know people here is not necesarily "white", or European anglosaxons?

Edited by pinguin - 04-Apr-2009 at 14:42

Hawass has been rewriting history as he sees fit in all aspects of egyptology. Not just with blacks but with everything. Since he took over there has been little to show in the realm of archaeology in Egypt. Only himself and his men are allowed to excavate anything of interest and even those locations which we know are there he denies exist. If any speak up they are derided,belittled and ostracised. Hawass is the destroyer of Egypt not the saviour, his tactics remind me of the Taliban. Only his view is the right view all else is lies this is not right. Before you defend a liar you should look into his history. I would recommed starting at Dr Bakr and working up till the present time.

Originally posted by Melissa I'll admit "The man made lake" thing i read from an egyptian-american author who's very bitter about that country, because she witnessed babies being drowned in the nile river for being "to dark" so it may be a conspiracy theory.

It wasn't a conspiracy theory (at least the man-made lake part).  I don't know about people drowning, but Lake Nasser was created in southern Egypt as a result of the construction of the Aswan High Dam.  The lake extends into northern Sudan, where it is called Lake Nubia.  Tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of Nubians in Egypt were displaced and forced to relocate.  It was highly controversial, but I never heard of anyone being drowned. 

This lake covers a vast expanse of land that was once part of Ancient Egypt and Nubia.  Most, if not all, of the temples and monuments were moved to higher ground.  The problem, though, is that the waters submerged ancient towns and artifacts from some of the oldest civilizations in the world.

Originally posted by Melissa By the way Akolouthos i am not a black american who "talks talks talks" about africa and has only white kids because of self esteem issues. only my grandma is black.

"Your problem is you think Europe = white"

I am well aware Egypt was a melting pot.

By the way Akolouthos i am not a black american who "talks talks talks" about africa and has only white kids because of self esteem issues. only my grandma is black.


Edited by Melissa - 26-Jan-2009 at 04:30

Originally posted by es_bih No one is actually doubting that Egypt was a center where different ethnic populations met within the same single state framework, what most people are doubting is the afrocentric notion that they were automatically black and aware of their "blackness" as it suits the political and ideological notions of today.

I haven't a clue what your trying to say...

they don't share any physical characteristics with West Africans

I disagree, Edgewater gets the fainest shade of brown and goes "O Hi blackman"
not because of skin color but because of the physical characteristics are simliar.

Tamils don't remsemble africans in the slightest

If a group of Tamils came and settled on Africa somewhere do they become black?

Are you saying egyptians of old originated outside of africa?

that they have nothing in common genetically with black africans
(despite the large infusion of blood from sudan, where they got their TOP queens from)

But a white arab living in north africa is perfectly normal? you dont think there was a population there before.....like if Paris was a black nation surrround by a sea of white ones i'd assmue there was a population there before.

If Nilotics and like a scot has nothing to do with a swede maybe? then i concur.

Modern Nubians are called Arabs.

Correction..."Modern Nubians" (you mean the people living in egypt)
call themselves arabs,  because they are heavily mixed with arabs and turkish, even though their still dark, they look nothing like their blue-black ancestors.
The Nuba people still alive in sudan  ..uh you know where the pyramids are?

They two are being "eradicated" by people who call themselves "arabs"

'White' has been used in modern language refer to the Romans or people descendent from romans, like italians. Germans are not, and never have been related to the Romans. It doesn't matter a rat's ass what their skin colour is.

Therefor don't ever call a german 'white"

Logic

If your gonna talk an inherit amount of bullshit, then i have the right to do the same
atleast what im saying resembles the truth.

How come this image, which was done in white IVORY hundred years after her death
DESPITE the fact that it looks NOTHING like she's protrayed on ALL other tomb wall images is paraded around...


But this image of  King Tut's grandmother is disallowed?...even on wikpedia

(oh wait, I think i know the answer)