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Were Mongols Tall?

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Topic: Were Mongols Tall?
Posted By: HistoryGuy
Subject: Were Mongols Tall?
Date Posted: 03-Mar-2006 at 19:49
Were Mongols, and Turks tall? What about the modern Mongolians?

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Posted By: Turkoglu
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2006 at 04:14
Medium height i think.

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Posted By: Bosniathebestcountry
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2006 at 04:17
i dont think they were tall.... probably average height. i think present day mongolians are pretty short like most oriental people.


Posted By: Socrates
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2006 at 04:46
Some of them, perhaps-those who had Iranian ancestry...IMO


Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 04-Mar-2006 at 06:42
short and stocky, these are the descriptions for both Turks and Mongols of old times. Mongols and isolated Turks of today fit that description, look at the Yakut/Sakha thread.

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Posted By: tadamson
Date Posted: 06-Mar-2006 at 04:18
The diet and lifestyle of the Mongols was the same as the other steppe nomads so they would be similar in average height and build.

Once you discount the usual "stooped like beasts", "barely human" etc style comments always applied to "barbarian" invaders they don't seem to have been particuarly different.


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Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 09-Mar-2006 at 12:11

yeah, that's it. Old excavations show that 'Peking Man' was of medium hight. It is even said that they were rather short. The Mongolian Skeletons found in North Eastern Russia and northern Mongolia are of average hight. What they say in old history books also confirms this fact.



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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.


Posted By: SaikhaNBayar
Date Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 07:45
I`m Khalkh and live in Ulan-bator. I`m (between) 18-22 (secret?)years old and will still grow! my height is about 1m 80cm. I never heard people told me "you are tall"!

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Posted By: Halevi
Date Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 07:49
Originally posted by SaikhaNBayar

I`m Khalkh and live in Ulan-bator. I`m (between) 18-22 (secret?)years old and will still grow! my height is about 1m 80cm. I never heard people told me "you are tall"!


Hey, i have a serious question.   Here in Canada, theres a chain of restaurants called the 'Mongoli Grill' ....... its a buffet of raw asian-type ingredients, you pile however much of whatever you like into a metal bowl, scoop on some sauce, and bring it to this guy who fries it all up for you on a giant piping-hot grill. Then they sprinkle sesame seeds on it.   The places are usually run by Koreans.

Is there anything remotely 'Mongolian'-sounding about this?

What do you normally eat there?




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Posted By: Sino Defender
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 01:14

Originally posted by Bosniathebestcountry

i dont think they were tall.... probably average height. i think present day mongolians are pretty short like most oriental people.

Northern Chinese from the central plain are actually quite tall. The average height of north eastern China is taller than europeans i believe. i am an asian from hk (with shanghainese blood), and i am 6'1. it's definitely a stereotype that oriental people are short.

look at yao ming



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Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 09:37

You know Sino Defender, we're talking about the majority. Being a Turkmen who've been quite Asiatic, I'm 183 now... still have got place to grow. But I can't say Central Asians are tall. Mostly average. And you've got to define who is considered tall. Our people are almost around 180 (or at most 185). Any person with a height of more than this amount is called 'suri/uzin' which are informal equivalents for 'tall'.



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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.


Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 11:43

You have to also consider that the diet in the old days was different to that of today and diet makes a big difference.  If you want heights for medieval Mongols, then the best thing to do is look at the nomadic Mongols who still live the same style of life as the old days.

The Japanese have increased greatly in height over the last 50 years because of the change in their diet, the same with Chinese, moer people have access to good quality meat, instead of just rice and other low protein agricultural products.

My dad is only 165cm tall, but I am 193 - he had a much tougher life as a child than I did and was one of ten children who did not receive the best of everything in 1950s and 60s Iran, all of my other makle cousins are above 185cm.

 



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Posted By: Socrates
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 17:45
Originally posted by Zagros

My dad is only 165cm tall, but I am 193 - he had a much tougher life as a child than I did and was one of ten children who did not receive the best of everything in 1950s and 60s Iran, all of my other makle cousins are above 185cm.

The diet is definetely important.My father also lived tougher as a child then me.He's 175 cm tall-i'm 192, and my brother is 186.However, my ancestors from my mother's side were quite tall (especially considering the time period)-my grandfather was 187 and his father about 193.Interesting-their life conditions were also rather poor (ww1 and ww2 contribution should be also mentioned).However, they were from the mountainous regions close to montenegro where being tall or extremely tall wasn't anything unusual...



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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 17:50

Our nickname is called "Uzunlar" wich means "the tallest" my father side are/where the tallest of their village, my dad whas the shortest of them, he's like 1.80cm im 1.82cm. I had an uncle, he whas above 2meters, his oldest son is 1.97cm and they are living in Turkey. 



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Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 02:18
I agree Zagros. But the thing is that, our people, from different social classes, with different diets and favors, would rarely grow up to 185. Now, forget about the radical Japanese who have affected even their potatos to be a better food. I've spent whole my life with different Turkic & Mongolian buddies; but have found most of them to have the normal height, I mean almost 180. Anyhow Zagros (be khodam daram migam):'giram pedare to ro fazel; az fazle pedar to ra che hasel?' Take care...

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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.


Posted By: Mangudai
Date Posted: 13-Mar-2006 at 16:27

According to Carpini the mongols were of medium heigth. Considering that 13th century western europeans stood at an average of 165-170 cm tall I presume the mongols were of the same stature. Then Ruysbroeck writes at the same time that the chinese were shorter than the mongols

Considering the diet's effect on the heigth I wouldn't question it, but I would say genes have a bigger importance on your height. I'm short (172 cm) because many of my ancestors were short, despite all the modern vitamins and proteins I'm shorter than my dad and my father's father's father (born in 1881), who was 176 cm.



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Posted By: cliveersknell
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2006 at 00:17
Chinggis Khan was described as being tall.
The Shanyue of the Xiongnu who confronted Gen.MengTien
of the Qin Dynasty was described as being tall.
The famous palaentologist Roy Chapman Andrews described
a Mongol close to 7 ft tall in his memoirs.

r's
Clive


Posted By: gok_toruk
Date Posted: 14-Mar-2006 at 02:09
Studying anthropology, it is said that Yellow Race are gerenrally considered average and rather short, anyhow. That's what you see when you're among these people.

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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.


Posted By: Erdene
Date Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 13:40
I am Mongolian and I am short, 170 cm, my two younger brothers are taller than me...maybe its the diet and maybe its the amount of exercise they do, but anywho...I think I am the height my ancestors would have been 




Posted By: The Charioteer
Date Posted: 24-Apr-2006 at 15:37
Originally posted by Sino Defender

Northern Chinese from the central plain are actually quite tall. The average height of north eastern China is taller than europeans i believe. i am an asian from hk (with shanghainese blood), and i am 6'1. it's definitely a stereotype that oriental people are short.

look at yao ming

My family are northern Chinese, the height of male members are like:my granddad was like 1.75m; my father is 1.75m, while my elder brother is 1.89m and im 1.76 as well; my uncle is 1.76, my cousin 1.85.

 

 



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Posted By: kingofmazanderan
Date Posted: 28-Apr-2006 at 16:36
I read in a book Khangis Khan him self was tall and had red or bright brown hair.  I think he was mixed though because i read some mongols are mixed with Scythians and Iranians


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-May-2006 at 07:31
i'm a Mongolian. i'm 176. but shortest guy in my friends

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11-May-2006 at 05:25
I thought Japanese were the tallest Asians 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2013 at 23:54
Um so Hi I am also from Mongolia and I live in the city yes there is a restaurant called Mongolia Grill it's just like you said but there are some mongolian foods like steamed dumplings but as you say most of the food isn't but you know we just like to name things using Mongolian so yeah


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2013 at 01:37
Hi Nelly!Welcome here in forum!Smile


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2015 at 14:33
You   Canadian don't be mocking our people and mess with us and Canada was occupied by Britain by the way unlike us and by the way I'm 14 and I'm 177 cm get ur facts right *******

And now you're gone. Banned. Unnecessary profanity-vulgar language,trolling and flaming.

post edited for violations noted above.

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