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Topic: Boot Iran out of the World Cup finals?
Posted By: Alborz
Subject: Boot Iran out of the World Cup finals?
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 01:42
14 January 2006
BOOT IRAN OUT OF WORLD CUP FINALS
Call for football sanction over nuclear storm
By Pippa Crerar

IRAN should be kicked out of the World Cup as punishment for defying a ban on nuclear activities, it was claimed yesterday.

The call came as the tense war of words between Iran and the West over the stand-off escalated dramatically.

US Secretary of State Con-doleezza Rice said military action had not been ruled out.

And Iran's hardline regime raised the stakes and threatened to halt snap inspections of their nuclear sites by the United Nations.

The Foreign Office yesterday came under pressure from a senior Tory to demand that the football-mad country are thrown out of the tournament in Germany.

Former shadow foreign secretary Michael Ancram said: "What is happening in Iran is a very dangerous situation, not just in terms of a threat to international peace and security but also to the whole stability of the Middle East.

 

"Although I have always supported a reference to the Security Council, that could rumble on for some time.

"An exclusion from the World Cup would give a very, very clear signal to Iran that the international community will not accept what they are doing."

Ancram said the football ban would hit ordinary Iranians but would help put pressure on firebrand President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

He said: "It may be unpleasant but you can give a hard signal, which isn't going to hurt people as such.

"But it is going to at least give a chance of registering in the minds of the Iranian people that what their president is doing is unacceptable to the international community."

Some German politicians and political commentators also want Iran blackballed from the World Cup for breaching the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

But the sport's governing body FIFA said they would not expel Iran from the finals, which will be staged from June 9 to July 9.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said he was "not certain" a ban would help and said he had always taken a "slightly different view" about sporting sanctions.

He had resisted them being imposed on Zimbabwe because they would have "punished ordinary Zimbabweans for the sins of a dictator".

Condoleezza Rice was asked if the US ruled out using force, and she replied: "The president of the United States never takes any of his options off the table."

Iran threatened to block snap UN inspections of nuclear facilities if they were referred to the UN.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki said Tehran would "be obliged to end all voluntary measures" if reported to the Security Council.

The crisis intensified this week after Iran removed seals at three nuclear facilities, including a uranium-enrichment plant at Natanz, following a two-year freeze.

They insist they want only to develop nuclear energy but there are fears Iran will seek atomic weapons.

Officials from the UK, US, Germany, France, China and Russia will hold urgent talks in London next week to trigger a meeting of the IAEA nuclear watchdog.

That will pave the way for Iran to be referred to the Security Council for possible sanctions.

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Replies:
Posted By: Illuminati
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 01:52
International sports events should serve to unify the world, not further divide it. 

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Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 03:45
No.
I want to see a Iran vs USA game. You could use that to solve the whole issue.


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 04:52
Originally posted by Alborz

14 January 2006
BOOT IRAN OUT OF WORLD CUP FINALS
Call for football sanction over nuclear storm
By Pippa Crerar

IRAN should be kicked out of the World Cup as punishment for defying a ban on nuclear activities, it was claimed yesterday.

Could ban the US and England too for similarly defying the UN and invading Iraq.



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Posted By: Lmprs
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 05:32
How ridiculous is that? Of course not!

By the way, the poll choices no and football is not politics are the same thing.



Posted By: erci
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 06:00
Ban usa from all sport events


Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 06:46
They think Ahmadinezhad would give a damn? He would be HAPPY and it would play right into his hands.

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Posted By: Anujkhamar
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 07:15
What would happen if the war occured during the world cup? Has any other major sporting events happened while countries playing were at war?


Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 08:01
ive voted for "BAN USA TOO" they should banned from all sports...

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Posted By: Qin Dynasty
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 08:25

no, at least usa should not be banned to play basketball.



Posted By: Jhangora
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 08:50
No.

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Posted By: cg rommel
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 11:37
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim

No.
I want to see a Iran vs USA game. You could use that to solve the whole issue.


it would be great if that happened, but i dont think it will.....

anyway, football(the real one, not that american crap) is not politics, so no booting Iran....


Posted By: BMC21113
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 11:51

No, these international sporting events are a place to showcase athletic prowess, not punish athletes for the actions of their leaders.



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Posted By: flyingzone
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 12:08
Originally posted by BMC21113

No, these international sporting events are a place to showcase athletic prowess, not punish athletes for the actions of their leaders.

So what's your opinion on the American-led boycott of the 1980 Olympic games held in Moscow?



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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 12:17

Originally posted by Anujkhamar

What would happen if the war occured during the world cup? Has any other major sporting events happened while countries playing were at war?

It happened in 1982 when Britain and Argentina were at war in the Falklands.

England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Argentina had all qualified, both governments knew it would be suicide to voluntarily withdraw. So the possibility of the first international game of football between two countries at war since 1916 was a real possibility for a while. However Northern Ireland, England and Argentina went out in seperate quarter finals and...............Scotland.....



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Posted By: BMC21113
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 12:38
Personally, I am completely against politics in athletics. When I watch sporting events, I am interested in watching talented athletes compete to determine who is the best at the sport. Athletics and politics do not mix, as athletics have always been a place for me to turn to escape politics. I am not very familiar with the 1980 boycott of the Olympics, as this was before my time, and I have never learned the details regarding these actions. Either way, I firmly believe in the pure spirit of competition in athletics, and do not wish to see that tainted through political issues.

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Posted By: sedamoun
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 13:57
Originally posted by Illuminati

International sports events should serve to unify the world, not further divide it. 


True, and what does the football players have to do with politics? They are only in charge on the football field, they qualified so they get to play the World Cup.

Cheers.


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 14:00
Originally posted by Paul

 

Could ban the US and England too for similarly defying the UN and invading Iraq.


to ban england is a very brilliant idea. why nobody thought about that earlier ?



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Posted By: Alborz
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 15:59

Originally posted by barish


By the way, the poll choices no and football is not politics are the same thing.

I know, I wanted to edit my poll but I cant. Can the mods fix it by like combining the two choices together. "No" and "football is not politics".

thank you.



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Posted By: Fort Brooklyn
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 16:05
No, definitly not. The football players don't want their livelihood to be ruined by the world leaders. Don't bring them into this.


Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 16:29
football is a kind of war !
everybody who ever played or watched it ,must agree.
there also exists a left football and the oposite. if you want to know more about it , you have to read  a book from the former manger of argentina caesar luis menotti.


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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 16:34
You're right! Football is a way for nations to slug it out without actually killing each other

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Posted By: ArmenianSurvival
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 16:37
What desperation would the U.S. be showing if they indeed banned Iran from the World Cup? Theyre not sanctioning them militarily or economically.... but athletically?


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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 17:33

Thankfully FIFA is not in their pocket.



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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 22:06
well if iran gets banned then bann every other country that acts inspite of the UN. Isreal, USA and Britain are some countries that have done so already.


Posted By: strategos
Date Posted: 15-Jan-2006 at 01:46

Of course Iran should not be banned and I doubt your information is correct, no one seriously thought Iran should be banned so do not spread this. 

Why should America be banned? This makes no sense.



Posted By: sedamoun
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2006 at 09:29
Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

Originally posted by Paul

 

Could ban the US and England too for similarly defying the UN and invading Iraq.


to ban england is a very brilliant idea. why nobody thought about that earlier ?

I find it wrong that the UK doesn't have ONE team. The kingdom, because that's what it is, should not be allowed to get 4 teams in the qualification rounds: England, Scottland, Wales and NI. They should just form one UK "Dream Team" (imagine Duff, Becks, Giggs, Given, Gerrard, Terry... in the same team) and give some more slots to the african nations (only 5 teams out of around 50 fifa members)...

Cheers.



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Posted By: Cezar
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2006 at 10:11
No way! I'm sick of this kind of politics! There've been to many such bans and boycots. Let the sport be sport (or at least what money had left of it). I mean fun, fair competition, etc.


Posted By: Aydin
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 00:15
Speaking of Fair Play
 
Kaveh Mahjoob
http://footballmedia.net/articles.asp?id=234 - http://footballmedia.net/articles.asp?id=234
 
 
Ever since sports became international and Olympics and World Cups took over the world stage for weeks at a time, politicians have tried to take advantage of the sports to further their policies. Over and over, sports international bodies have tried hard to resist and stop politicians influence. Most of the times, sports administrators have been successful and at times they have given up to the pressure.
 
The 2006 World Cup is the most important sporting event of this year and once again, we read and hear almost on daily basis the attempts that are being made by politicians from different countries to mix politics with sports. This time the target is the Iranian National Team that has qualified for Germany. The premise of these voices who are asking to ban Iran is not to hurt people but make a political statement against the the policies of the Iranian government.
 
These politicians want to punish the Iranian government by banning Irans national team. Let us be very clear and honest about this. Banning the Iranian national team from Germany, serves no purpose but punishing the Iranian football fans. In the case of Iran, that will be the entire nation. It does another more long lasting damage. The true damage would be to the very institute that has stood up for peace and friendship.
 
Let us remind ourselves why World Cup and Olympics are so important in this stressful and unkind world. These sporting events are The Only worldwide events that are based on friendship, sportsmanship and peace. It seems like FIFA understands these concepts very well and so far has resisted calls for banning Iran. Until now, FIFA has also insisted that it respects the separation of sports and politics.
 
So far, FIFA has stayed true to its Fair Play slogan.
 
And the true sports fans throughout the world would expect FIFA to continue to play it fair with the institutes Fair Play.


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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 00:18
Iran's team might ban itself who knows, right?! Iran's just lucky that Israel didn't qualify for the WC, otherwise there wouldn't be any need for the proposal; "If Israel is in, we're out!"

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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 13:36
The World cup is for the countries of the world, Iran is already out of this world!

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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 14:09
You would support Israel in a football match with Iran anyway.

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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 14:25
Originally posted by sedamoun

I find it wrong that the UK doesn't have ONE team. The kingdom, because that's what it is, should not be allowed to get 4 teams in the qualification rounds: England, Scottland, Wales and NI. They should just form one UK "Dream Team" (imagine Duff, Becks, Giggs, Given, Gerrard, Terry... in the same team) and give some more slots to the african nations (only 5 teams out of around 50 fifa members)...


Cheers.



Scotland and England in the same team? Where's the fun in that?
And they started the game, they deserve it. Besides you could as well start arguing for a EU team if you want to join those two.



Posted By: Heraclius
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 16:08

 I see no reason why the Iranian football squad and staff should be punished in a competition they have earned a place in just to put pressure on Ahmadinejad.

 



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