Who were the Etruscans?
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Topic: Who were the Etruscans?
Posted By: Vamun Tianshu
Subject: Who were the Etruscans?
Date Posted: 12-Nov-2005 at 23:04
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Most scholars believe that they didn't speak an Indo-European Language like most people from Asia Minor and Europe.Where did they come from?Is there a clue,for even their architecture is hard to decipher as to who they were? ------------- 
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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2005 at 00:31
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This previous thread may give you some answers you want.
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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2005 at 01:50
These are another several threads on Etruscans, their genetics and origins:
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Posted By: Ellinas
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2005 at 07:24
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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2005 at 08:20
I just wrote that there is a topic titled that way. I didn't start it and I think the title is awful. Something like Etruscans could be originary from the Aegean would be much better. Still the topic is interesting: the paper that opens it is a genetic study that find that ancient Etruscans (aristocrats) have significatively more "Anatolian" genes than modern Tuscans, what by itself is an interesting fact because there are two theories on Etruscan origins: that they were "native" to Italy or that they came from Anatolia or the Aegean. Of course Turk culture and language has nothing to do with Etruscans or Trojans, only genes do. -------------
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Posted By: LEGATVS LEGIONIS
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2005 at 03:44
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according to an old mith that i've read when i was a kid, they came
from the anatolic peninsula: at the end, according to another mith,
rome was built by some troyans and at the beginning of the roman
history, when the kings ruled Rome, 3 Kings were Etruscans;by the way
Rome was built by Etruscans who were really important at the beginning
of the roman history----> i think there's an echo of the real origin
of the etruscan people in that mith: maybe The Etruscans came from
Anatolia but nobody can be sure of that at the moment ------------- Hosti non solum dandam esse viam ad fugiendum, sed etiam muniendam! (Publius Cornelius Scipio 'Africanus') Si vis pacem para bellum! |
Posted By: Ellinas
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2005 at 05:46
My big surprise was when I heard about Turks being of Trojan origin. I can't have a clear opinion about Etruscans because I never researched on them. |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 10-Dec-2005 at 06:43
The take a look at that topic. Not that they were Trojans in the literal meaning of the world but in some wider pre-Greek Aeagean sense. "Pelasgians" if you wish. This is pretty likely. -------------
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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 11-Dec-2005 at 16:56
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Well, firstly think of what Thukydides said while speaking of the population of Akte (IV, 109), "... the majority are Pelasgian, of the Tyrrhenian race that once lived in Lemnos and Athens". Then think of what Herodotos says about Pelasgians "the Athenians expelled the Pelasgians, who went to Lemnos, whence they waged war on Athens" And about their language : http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126;query=chapter%3D%2357;layout=;loc=1.56.1 - http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atex t%3A1999.01.0126;query=chapter%3D%2357;layout=;loc=1.56.1 "LVII. What language the Pelasgians spoke I cannot say definitely. But if one may judge by those that still remain of the Pelasgians who live above the http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/vor?type=phrase&alts=0&group=typecat&lookup=Tyrrheni&collection=Perseus:collection:Greco-Roman - Tyrrheni http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126;query=chapter%3D%2357;layout=;loc=1.56.1#fn1" name=anch1>1 in the city of http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/vor?type=phrase&alts=0&group=typecat&lookup=Creston&collection=Perseus:collection:Greco-Roman - Creston --who were once neighbors of the people now called http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/vor?type=phrase&alts=0&group=typecat&lookup=Dorians&collection=Perseus:collection:Greco-Roman - Dorians , and at that time inhabited the country which now is called Thessalian-- So from both accounts there is historical evidence about pelasgian people - of the tyrrhenian race as Thucydides says - living in Athens and Lemnos. Secondly think of the Lemnos stele. Its written in the same language - possibly as experts claim, a different dialect - and there you have your archaeological evidence. Furthermore i paste an interesting theory from J. Faucounau, claiming that: "The "Proto-Etruscans" were the first coastal inhabitants of ------------- A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty. |
Posted By: Odin
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 11:27
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I remember reading on Wiki that Etruscan may have been related to Minoan, so an Aegean origin sounds correct. The pre-Etruscans were probably remainant populations of the pre-IE population of Greece that Joined the ranks of the Sea Peoples aloong with the Mycenean Greeks and the Minoans during the Greek Dark Ages when the Dorian Greeks came knocking. The Etruscans were also significantly less patriarchal then thier Latin neighbors, another possible Minoan connection ------------- "Of the twenty-two civilizations that have appeared in history, nineteen of them collapsed when they reached the moral state the United States is in now." -Arnold J. Toynbee |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2006 at 20:31
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The Etruscans definitively look somehow Minoan but they can be from some other Aegean nation of that time. The only remnant of Aegean Etrsucans was in Lemnos, which is just off where Troy once stood. They could also be from some other region of Anatolia (Lydia, Bithinia) or even the coastal region of the Balcans. -------------
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Posted By: Maljkovic
Date Posted: 11-Apr-2006 at 07:05
| I've read about a theory that they were from central Europe, from which they escaped the invading Indo-Europeans into Italy. |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 11-Apr-2006 at 12:18
Archaeological link? Genetics point to Anatolia/Aegean anyhow, and so do their culture, sailing abilities and presence in Lemnos. -------------
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