Gokturk Empire
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Forum Name: Steppe Nomads and Central Asia
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Topic: Gokturk Empire
Posted By: Janissary
Subject: Gokturk Empire
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2005 at 00:39
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Do u know something? What was the differencer of This empire that others? What was the difference between The I Gokturk Empire and The II? |
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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2005 at 09:52
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The first one was the original Turuk empire built on the remnants of the Juan Juan in 552 ad.. The second is a revival empire Bilge Han presided over around the 720's. Here is a thorough link on both: http://www.allempires.com/empires/gokturk1/gokturk1.htm - http://www.allempires.com/empires/gokturk1/gokturk1.htm http://www.allempires.com/empires/gokturk2/gokturk2_1.htm - http://www.allempires.com/empires/gokturk2/gokturk2_1.htm ------------- |
Posted By: Janissary
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2005 at 22:58
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There a very little information about those great States ------------- |
Posted By: TheodoreFelix
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2005 at 23:25
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Such a massive empire, and not one since history book touches it. Amazing.... ------------- |
Posted By: tadamson
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 07:36
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There are no records from within the Turk empires. The Chinese
historians mention them when they were involved in Chinese affairs but
we have little else to go on. As with all these steppe
'empires' the Turk was a loose confederation so a change of
'empire' doesn't necessaraly mean great changes in the actual peoples
etc.. ------------- rgds. Tom.. |
Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 09:12
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Heres a few more links: http://www.ozturkler.com/data_english/0001/0001_05.htm - http://www.ozturkler.com/data_english/0001/0001_05.htm http://www.uglychinese.org/uygur.htm - http://www.uglychinese.org/uygur.htm http://www.ozturkler.com/data_english/0001/0001_05.htm - ------------- |
Posted By: Janissary
Date Posted: 20-Oct-2005 at 18:25
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There is a book Lev Qumilyov-Old Turks-all about 1st and 2nd Gokturk, Avar and Uygur Empires!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Attila2
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2005 at 06:27
There are not many info available about the gok-turks in the books coz noone wants to see turks as a central asian ppl.In most of the western eyes Turks are a fez-wearing,nargile smoking turban'd folk 
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Posted By: tadamson
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2005 at 07:47
? where did this drivel come from ? We don't know much because there are very few written records. Internal written records of the "steppe empires" didn't really start until the Uighur, and most of them were lost in the general destruction of the new towns after the Kirgiz and Naimen destroyed Uighur power. ------------- rgds. Tom.. |
Posted By: Janissary 2
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2005 at 18:39
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I told u go and read "The Old Turks" written by Russian guy The thick size of the book is 5 sm. And it is all about 1st, 2nd and Uygur empires ------------- |
Posted By: tadamson
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 09:49
Dr Gumilyov's work is a little dated and many modern readers dislike it becaus in includes strong anti Jewish elements (not uncommon for the period). It has the advantages of being by a Russian (almost all the archeology is Russian), not having much competition, and is transklated into Turkish (but not English). ------------- rgds. Tom.. |