Germany’s last Colony
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Topic: Germany’s last Colony
Posted By: Komnenos
Subject: Germany’s last Colony
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 14:38
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The Ernst-Thälmann-Insel (Cayo Ernesto Thaelmann) is an approx. 15km long and 500m wide island in the Bay of Pigs on the Cuban South Coast.
In June 1972 the Cuban leader Fidel Castro went to visit the GDR ( the former East-Germany) . During his stay he gave the GDR a Caribbean island as a present. Its original name was Cayo Blanco del Sur, later it was renamed Ernst-Thälmann-Insel, after the leader of the German Communist Party in the 20s and 30s who was murdered by the Nazis. (Seriously, no joke!) In the German unification treaty from 1990 the island is not mentioned. On behalf of the German people, I therefore demand an immediate clarification of the legal status of the Ernst-Thälmann-Insel. I am further willing to personally hoist the German flag on the island and, if necessary, to volunteer as one of the first German settlers in the Carribean. Please support our just cause! ------------- [IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/komnenos/crosses1.jpg"> |
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 15:24
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe that island was thought to have been devastated by Hurricane Mitch (1998). And I definitely remember reading that Castro denied ever having made such a donation.
I say, GO GET IT, Komnenos!!! Finders Keepers, Losers Weepers!!!!!!  Good Luck.
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Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 16:23
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I would like to see Germany get something back! BUt lets not start a war with Castro over yet. Actually.... better yet, lets start a war with him! ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 16:25
If you are going to get Ernst Talmann-insel, I'll go with you to
get Cozumel. In 1517 that island was awarded to a Dutch nobleman by
Charles the V, so it's about time we make Dutch rule effective on
Cozumel  ------------- |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 17:21
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I imagine this would be better in Historical Amusement, as I imagine
you are all kidding when claiming that obscure and, in any case, ilegal
concession to a country that doesn't exist anymore, am I wrong?
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NO GOD, NO MASTER! |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 17:27
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Those dimensions say to me.... Military Airstrip! Schroeder could use it to keep Bush in check. ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: Thegeneral
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 17:46
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Please, Shroeder couldn't keep Castro in check. Too bad for the Germans. -------------
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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 17:50
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yeah, I'm already there and conduct some serious covered Guerillia operations.....unfortunately I'm the only person on the island. ------------- |
Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 20:29
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Well Komnenos I say go take back your island. Why not govern it on behalf of the German people and start your own dynasty on the island, I bet you would love that . ------------- |
Posted By: yan.
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2005 at 12:03
| Maybe they can exchange it for Sansibar? |
Posted By: rangerstew
Date Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 14:46
| It would be cool if Germany retook it by force. Maybe then Castro would blame someone other than the U.S. for all of his problems. |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 14:55
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Retake what? Germany has never owned that island. Anyhow, you Gringos would be happy, wouldn't you? Cuba doesn't have any major problems, only that nasty blackmail to foreign companies not to do bussiness with Cuba, which is a good reason not just for Cubans but for other nations to hate the USA. -------------
NO GOD, NO MASTER! |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 14-Sep-2005 at 15:10
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You Germans are nuts! Why go to a distant Carribean island where you can end up awash in the sea after a tornado? Come and live in a deserted Greek island and you can probably get government support for it http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4171015.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4171015.stm
or apply for a position as lighthouse-keeper, for one of the few lighthouses that are not automatic and are preserved for historical purpoces. Remember, there're 2,000 islands in the Aegean and only 200 are inhabited.
------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2005 at 01:46
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Hey, sounds cool! And with no one living there I wouldn't even have to learn Greek Now seriously, it looks promising. What can you do for a living in a desert island? How much would cost the land? Would I be allowed to build a house or are those islands considered natural protected spaces? Would I be allowed to install a turistic camping (for income) and a small dock? I am definitively interested - even if I have to learn Greek. I already know how to say elevteria, ne and oxi. The lighthose keeper profession also sounds pretty good. Where can I get more info? -------------
NO GOD, NO MASTER! |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2005 at 07:28
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Hi, frankly I haven't thought of it that much, to look for practical information. Now I think that I'm also interested! To start with, if you don't have a source of income, it's hard to make a living in a small deserted island. First of all, there're no tourists, except if you become known, built a small tavern and the island has a decent beach, so you can attract sail boaters. You have to have you own boat and a bigger island near by, where you can get provisions. 99% of these smaller islets have no water, must be imported. Must be used to loneliness, winters will be very lonely. If you are in need of (any kind of) medical attention, forget about it! I'm not sure if you can buy it, since they belong to the state and it doesn't sell land unless there's a very specific reason. Some others are protected as birds havens and are out of limits, you cannot built anything, or even stay overnight. But you can probably built a light structure in one of the not protected ones. Wanting to live in it, is another issue. Lighthouse guard seems much more interesting, I'll look into it and get back to you!
------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2005 at 07:35
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If that place comes with a highspeed internet connection, and an attractive young lady chef, it could be the thing for me.
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Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2005 at 07:41
Dream on!  ------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 20-Sep-2005 at 10:31
Really ? Then I think I will give another Cinco de Mayo 
Time to take back Isla de La Pasion from France ( Clipperton Island ) ------------- |
Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 01:37
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As a group of Turkish citizens Ernest Thalmann should stay German!!!
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Posted By: Komnenos
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 03:23
Thank you for your support! Another proof for the longstanding friendship between the Turkish and German people. ------------- [IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/komnenos/crosses1.jpg"> |
Posted By: Jhangora
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 11:46
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Komnenos r there Germans living on this island. -------------  Jai Badri Vishal
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