Nader Shah unites the Ottoman Empire with Iranshahr
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Topic: Nader Shah unites the Ottoman Empire with Iranshahr
Posted By: Zagros
Subject: Nader Shah unites the Ottoman Empire with Iranshahr
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2005 at 13:32
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Discuss how world history would have unfolded had these two great powers of their time been merged and Nader Shah did not become delusional but kept a cool and calculating head. Central Asia was already part of Nader's conquests. I believe the British, French and whomever else would have been ousted from India (and great welath would have been amassed from that region), swathes of European Russia would have been added and conquests would have infiltrated much deeper into Central Europe. |
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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2005 at 21:17
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I think that such a large empire would have been too difficult to govern. By the time of Nader Shah, both the Ottomans and the Safavids was a had serious problems with corruption. Nader Shah succesful conqueror because of his own genius, but to consolidate such an empire would have taxed even him, let alone expand it. Besides, he's known for his qualities as a miltary leader, not an administrator. As far as Central Europe and Russia... the Europeans were starting to have an edge on the muslim powers by this time. The Habsburgs and the Romanovs had large, excellent armies and by this time had a technological edge on the Safavids.
As for India, while certainly an attractive objective which could be conquered in its entirety, it probably would have been a long protracted war. Even if Nader Shah would have gotten the better of the Moghuls, his successors would not have been able to keep India. His raid on Delhi was one thing, to conquer and consolidate all of India another matter entirely. It might have gained time, but the Europeans would have returned. ------------- What is history but a fable agreed upon? Napoleon Bonaparte Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.- Mohandas Gandhi 
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Posted By: DocStaph
Date Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 21:06
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Posted By: DocStaph
Date Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 21:09
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Date Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 21:10
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24-Feb-2007 at 02:03
I suspect Nadir Shah could have kept what is now pakistan and parts of N India. Historically he did keep Pakistan.
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Posted By: Batu
Date Posted: 24-Feb-2007 at 13:50
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The Ottomans would use all of their soldiers and time to conquer Europe.Vienna,Venice,Koln maybe Rome!!!
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Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 24-Feb-2007 at 17:46
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They would have been an awesome power, the Ottoman-Safavid issue had been settled before. By the time of Nadir Shah relations were quite good in comparison.
Now let me take it one step further. If the Moghuls, Afsharids, Ottomans formed a union or pact, opened their borders and formed some uber-strong millitary, well...that would be incredible.
Imagine the architecture, a cross between the Taj Mahal, Selimiye and Masjid-i Shah, WOW
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 25-Feb-2007 at 00:41
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Well, Nader Shah tried to reconcile the Sunni-Shia divisions and his aim was to overthrow the Ottoman's and create such an empire. ------------- |