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Topic: Forum organization
Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Subject: Forum organization
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2004 at 17:08
Since we're starting a new forum, we should take advantage of fresh syncretism.

One thing that we can do here that we could not do is to making sub-forums. For example, we can have a subforum in the languages forum just for Turkish or for language tutoring, or in the intellectual discussions, add subforums for literature and science.

So if you have suggestions, feel free to make them.



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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2004 at 23:06
Hmm, could we look at the forums we have as it is first?
I mean, i kind of think there are two many of them.


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Posted By: Jr_Capablanca
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 04:55

Hello!
I like the system as it is now. When the forum expands (and it will!), we might consider to put up new sections.

/Capa



Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 14:19
There has been some discussion in http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19&PN=1&TPN=1 - this thread about the India/Africa/Americas forum.

Now, i'm wondering if the sub forum feature could have some use here.
Could we not have on the main forums page, a basic, by region list of main forums, and within each, a list of subforums?
That way we don't need  3 main forums for Europe, all of Asia (including India and SE Asia) can go in one Asian forum, and so on, and each of those forums then can have the relevant sub forums in them.

How does that sound?


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 14:26
for sure you are on to something with that.


Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 14:26
Also, could we merge General Gaming and Historical Amusement, with subforums for role play, cumputer games, or general amusements?

Hmm, mainly i want to clean up the main forum page, make it look less cluttered, also, it will make the individual main forums look fuller juicier


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 14:59

That sounds reasonable. What about the old problem of Time and geography? The main forums are split not only geographicly but other times they are split by era.



Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 15:08
So under a single European main forum, we can have medival, renassaince and modern sub-forums, there are still there in essence, just sorted by continent on the main forums page.

Hmm, go here - http://forums.invisionpower.com/ - http://forums.invisionpower.com/
They are the main forums for Invisionboard, just have a look around, some of the main forums have sub-forums in them, just to give you a feel of how these forums could look.


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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 15:22
Ok I see what you mean. That would solve many for the catigory problems and also produce your less cluttered main page. I like it. Your quite a broght fellow for a welshie. how about coming and orginizing my office for me?


Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 15:29
If you pay, sure, i could do with a new job.

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Posted By: Dawn
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 15:32
I pay poor but I'll feed you and give you a place to stay.


Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 16:28

Originally posted by Cywr

So under a single European main forum, we can have medival, renassaince and modern sub-forums, there are still there in essence, just sorted by continent on the main forums page.

 NOOOO! Ok, we can make Historical amusements a sub-forum of the tavern, but General gaming has to stay independend, it has become my favourite forum by now  .  also, no one ever made a historical role-play...



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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 16:51
The Game forum isn't going anywhere, just that there will be a sub-forum in there for role-play/historical fantasy/stories/whatever.
It will all be kept seperate, but just that all amusement/entertainment discussions, be on games, movies, or whatever, be under the banner of one main forum on the main page = less clutter + more localised specialisation.

Hmm, can sub-forums have their own seperate mods too, just for that (and any other) sub-forum?
This could create more vacancies, so make the mod team more inclusive.


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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 17:08

Originally posted by Cywr

The Game forum isn't going anywhere, just that there will be a sub-forum in there for role-play/historical fantasy/stories/whatever.
It will all be kept seperate, but just that all amusement/entertainment discussions, be on games, movies, or whatever, be under the banner of one main forum on the main page = less clutter + more localised specialisation.

you mean like game reports? this I would support!

Hmm, can sub-forums have their own seperate mods too, just for that (and any other) sub-forum?
This could create more vacancies, so make the mod team more inclusive.

I also wondered about that...probably not but the Mods can divide their attention according to the sub-forum(s)



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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 17:36
I know that with Invision board, you can set mods just for specific sub-forums, not sure about these boards though.

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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 18:32
Pre-Columbian Americas should enter Rennaisance/Imperial Age as a sub-forum.


Don't you mean Post-Columbian?

We don't need tons and tons of subforums, just 2-3 for each main one, the main one can be just general.
Modern is modern, its not geography spcecific, but having seperate Medival and Rennasiance just creates two under utilised forums (old AE, they were both somewhat quiet), where as you have an East Asian forum that coveres several millenia (hence why it was so much busier).

If your doing Africa on its own, you might want to make sure it includes ancient Egypt and post-roman to early modern N. Africa too, lest it be too empty.


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Posted By: Imperator Invictus
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 18:32
This is embarassing, but I'll have to take back my first post.

We can't add sub-forums yet. The demo forums that they have are running on an alpha version with new features, but it's not realeased.


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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 18:34
Huh!

Ah.
Meh, well forget it for now then i guess.
Will there always be the option of upgrading the forum software with ease at a later date?


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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 18:55

Originally posted by Cywr

Pre-Columbian Americas should enter Rennaisance/Imperial Age as a sub-forum.


Don't you mean Post-Columbian?

We don't need tons and tons of subforums, just 2-3 for each main one, the main one can be just general.
Modern is modern, its not geography spcecific, but having seperate Medival and Rennasiance just creates two under utilised forums (old AE, they were both somewhat quiet), where as you have an East Asian forum that coveres several millenia (hence why it was so much busier).

If your doing Africa on its own, you might want to make sure it includes ancient Egypt and post-roman to early modern N. Africa too, lest it be too empty.

well, for most part I completely disagree...for example egypt is geographically part of africa but culturally belongs more or less to the middle east (especially after the arab conquest) same goes for Europe during hellenistic and roman times....it sort of doesn't fit to discuss celts and greeks in the same forum...

terefore, I wuld leave the forms like they were...just find a pleasant solution for the india/africa/america forum



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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2004 at 19:26

well, for most part I completely disagree...for example egypt is geographically part of africa but culturally belongs more or less to the middle east (especially after the arab conquest) same goes for Europe during hellenistic and roman times....it sort of doesn't fit to discuss celts and greeks in the same forum...


Irrelevant, its a geography thing.
Post arabic Egypt = Islamic Empires subforum
During Roman times, and even Greek times, Celts are there in the background, influening and being influences, so its not out of the ordinary that they should pop up they existed side by side, besides, why should Greece and Rome get a seperate forum for ancient era, but not the ancient Nubians of the ancient Indus valley?



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Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2004 at 11:09
but we're not on a geography forums! history is shaped by cultural boundaries, not geographical...where should we place the Ottomans according to you?

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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2004 at 11:21
Islamic Empires, with links from the European, African and Asian forums, assuming a subforum system.
Have you even been reading my posts?

Besides, Culture is NOT absolute, the islamic/african influence did not magicly stop at Egypts borders, it spread all over Northern Africa and south in to Sudan and Kenya and beyond.
Africa works for Egypt, throughout all time, its not like the rest of the continent is culturaly homogeneous.


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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2004 at 13:51
Do we really need a separate board for Ancient Iran? I mean, it wasn't *that* different from other Ancient civilisations, we can merge it with the Egypto-Mesopotamian board.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2004 at 14:18

Originally posted by ihsan

Do we really need a separate board for Ancient Iran? I mean, it wasn't *that* different from other Ancient civilisations, we can merge it with the Egypto-Mesopotamian board.

Since many people want different boards for the current American, Indian, SE Asian and African History board, perhpas it's an idea to creata a South Asian Board (for Persia, India and perhaps SE Asia)



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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2004 at 14:38
Maybe we should wait and see if a soon to be upgrade will allow for subforums, then we can do a serious overhaul.




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Posted By: Master of Puppets
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2004 at 15:33
Agreed. Interesting suggestions over here, though!

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