Music: Turkish zeybeks and Greek zeibekiko
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Topic: Music: Turkish zeybeks and Greek zeibekiko
Posted By: kotumeyil
Subject: Music: Turkish zeybeks and Greek zeibekiko
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 04:09
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Below there are some samples of Turkish zeybek music by Muammer Ketencoglu. They have some similarities with Greek zeibekikos and rembetika. I'd appreciate if our Greek frends post some zeibekiko samples... http://dc1.4shared.com/dir/26654/bebbca49 - http://dc1.4shared.com/dir/26654/bebbca49 ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 04:16
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I think "Beyaz geyme toz olur" is special... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 04:26
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Also you can post any comments... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 05:26
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It's very similar to the kind of Rebetika that we call: "Smyrneika" (from Smyrna). They're usually very sad songs full of stories about lost loves, percecution from the police & hasish (not so much in the Smyrneika). Buzuki is the primary instrument, but also piano, violin, quitar and a small buzuki-like instrument called baglamas, are used. Unfortunatelly I don't listen to that music, so I don't have any songs to post. If you search for Smyrneika in Napster, you'll find many (I hope!).
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 05:36
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As far as I know, there are two ecoles in rebetika Smyrna and Pirea. After the 2nd world war the Pirea ecole became dominant but I like Smyrnea one more. Maybe I'm familiar with that kind of music, that's why... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 06:04
true, the Piraeus school (or ecole as you call it has a much "harder" sound than Smyrneika. Some regards it as a subculture and make connections to the Blues as its counterpart. If I recall there were some Blues musicians did performances with rebetica artists/rebetes (Luisiana Red playing with George Pilali comes to mind) ------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 06:58
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Yiannis, Chios was the island that's very close to Smyrna right? When I was in Cheshme there were Greeks coming with their "takna"s, to the "manav"s and shops of Cheshme. ------------- |
Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:17
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takna's?
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:27
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boats, or I think karavi in Greek... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:38
Aaa, ok. ------------- CARRY NOTHING |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:39
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I tought tekne was a common word... ------------- |
Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:40
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Nope, it isn't. Perhaps the greeks of istanbul use it as a loan from turkish to say boat, but it is not common. ------------- CARRY NOTHING |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:54
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Takna? I come from Samos island, which is just south of Chios and have never heard of this word. Varka is what we use for small boats and karavi for a ship. ------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 07:59
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Well, I have a Rum friend, he speaks Greek, and calls his boat tekne, even when speaking Greek, so I thought that it was common. ------------- |
Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 08:09
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I see... well, as I said before, he is using the turkish word, even when he speaks greek. Rums do it all the time.
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Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 12:41
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Actually the difference even though some (me included) may not hear it
at first, are quite evident to anyone that has had some music
'schooling'. (so they tell me) The Hellinic zeimpekikos is a slow 9/8 rythm with a 15 syllable verse broken into 2, one 8 syllable and one 7. In the 'school' of Pireas the well known troumpa there was
a variation of rythms, which is why we find songs from Bambakaris,
Tsitsanis etc. played in a 9/18 rythm or the 'fast' 9/8 seen in
the 'aptaliko' and the 'kamilieriko'.While the Turkish 'style' which we also find in some Hellinic zeimpekika like 'se kanourgia barka mphka" = 'I got into a new boat'. Is more of a slow 4/4, something like a slow 'tsifteteli' I've also heared you dance it in a 'circle' but not sure exactly how accurate that is. ------------- To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent. |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 14:03
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When we speak about zeybek-zeibekiko it has a 9/4 or 9/8 rhytym in its nature. Chiftetelli (means double stringed in Turkish) is another rhytmic pattern, though both are used in Turkish folk music and in rebetiko. The zeybeks I posted are only a few. There are any different kinds of zeybeks. For example the chakici or (tsakitsi in Greek) zeybek is also famous in Greece as ar as I know. For example, in the movie Rembetiko, one old man from Manisa sings it in Turkish. Of course there are differences between some Turkish zeybeks and Greek zeibekikos. For example, the Piraeus school's zeibekikos are somewhat alien to me (Vamvakaris is a member of it, also tsitsanis, though he is a late one). But the Smyrna school is very similar to Turkish one (some famous members are Andonis Dalgas, Dhimitris Semsis, Roza Eskenazi, Rita Abatzi, etc.). Also sometimes they sing in Turkish. Also dancing is similar. As you stated before, some zeybeks are played in circles but not touching each other. Also it is played alone. The circle one is a later coreography I think. Also the Greek dancing of zeibekiko is played alone. In its essence it is very similar depending on improvisation. But in the later times professional dancers added some acrobatic figures; but the folk form is not so acrobatic... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 15:46
Why do all posts written in word appear like that? The movie Rempetimo you mention is actually a real story of Marika Ninou, the composer in the movie Babis, is acually based on the life of Tsitsanis. I can't really make out what you say about Tsitsanis, but from the 'late' you mention, I'll just say that both he and Bambakaris while there was an age difference (Bambakaris was 10yrs older) published their first album with a 3yr difference. (Bambakaris first) The real difference was in the song 'style' and that Tsitsanis actually revived Bambakaris' career in the 50's. The Hellinic zeimpekiko is a solo, one dancer and the rest (real tradition says only one, but...  )
form a circle around him and clap to the song's rythm. While the
'aptaliko', is 'antikristo' two dancers face to face dance in similar
steps going in a circle both around a specific point and theirselves.Only lately have women began dancing zeimpekiko, as is it a 'new' custom to find many dancers on the same dancing floor during one song. There was a time that you could see 'blades shine' for such an offence. (those were the days!!!) When I said circle in my previous post, I mean I thought you dance it in a circle by holding hands. Probably saw the wrong pic. ------------- To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent. |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 17:02
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Vamvakaris was a classical tekke artist. He told a lot about hashish, evil women, sorrow etc. but Tsitsanis din't say much about tekkes but he told more about African nights, sad love stories, etc. He was a deviation from the classical line. About dance, I know what you are talking about. I danced zeibekiko with Greeks two weeks ago at Tenedos! Now I don't have any cds together with e but maybe toorrow I can post some different zeybek links too. In a more traditional style. By the way, why don't you post some Greek zeybekikos? If we can find we can post zeybek-zeibekiko vids, too. ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2005 at 18:12
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I liked your idea so here are some songs not all zeimpekika more of a random choice of rempetika in general. Kazantzidis 'Sunnefiasmenj Kuriaki' (Cloudy Sunday) (writen by Tsitsanis) Slow connections (needs Real Audio Player) http://www.datafox.org/greek/kiriaki.ram - http://www.datafox.org/greek/kiriaki.ram Fast connections: http://www.datafox.org/greek/sinnefiasmenikiriaki-kazantzidis.mp3 - http://www.datafox.org/greek/sinnefiasmenikiriaki-kazantzidi s.mp3 'Fragkosuriani' lyrics, music M.Bambakaris (just love a good xasapiko  )Slow connection: http://www.datafox.org/greek/franko.ram - http://www.datafox.org/greek/franko.ram Fast connection: http://www.datafox.org/greek/frankosiriani-bithikotsis.mp3 - http://www.datafox.org/greek/frankosiriani-bithikotsis.mp3 ----------- If you want the lyrics you can find them here: http://www.datafox.org/greek/gr_remb.html - http://www.datafox.org/greek/gr_remb.html Markos Vamvakaris: 'Ta Matoklada sou Lampoun' (your elashes shine) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-tamatokladasoulampoun.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-tama tokladasoulampoun.mp3 Diazugio (divorce) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-diazigio.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-diaz igio.mp3 'Oli oi Rempetes tou Ntounia' (all the rempetes in the 'hood') http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-olirembetistoudounia.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-olir embetistoudounia.mp3 S'auton ton kosmo ton kako. (In this bad world) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-saftotonkosmotonkako.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bambakaris-saft otonkosmotonkako.mp3 Vassilis Tsitsanis 'Sunnefiasmenj Kuriaki' http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/tsitsanis-sinifiasmenikyriaki.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/tsitsanis-sinif iasmenikyriaki.mp3 "Ego plirono ta matia p'agapo" (I pay for the eyes I love) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/tsitsanis-egopleronostamatia.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/tsitsanis-egopl eronostamatia.mp3 Sotiria Bellou Ase me, Ase me ( leave me leave me) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bellou-aseme.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bellou-aseme.mp 3 Kane ligaki upomoni (have a bit of patience) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bellou-kaneligakiepomoni.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/bellou-kaneliga kiepomoni.mp3 Marika Ninou (mentioned above in the movie Rembetiko) Agapi pou'gines Dikopo Maxairi (Love that became a two-edged knife) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/ninou-agapipougines.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/ninou-agapipoug ines.mp3 Genithika gia na pono (I was born to be in pain)  http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/ninou-genithikayanapono.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/ninou-genithika yanapono.mp3 Yiannis Papayoannou Kapetan Andrea Zeppo (Captain Andreas Zeppo) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayan-zeppo.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayan-zeppo.m p3 Bgike o xaros Pagania (Charon went out to 'hunt') Damn great zeimpekiko!!!!!! (the kind I mentioned above, when 'blades shine' )http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayan-xaros.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayan-xaros.m p3 Den se thelo pia (I don't want you any more) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayianou-densethelopia.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/papayianou-dens ethelopia.mp3 Loukas Daralas To Vouno (the mountain) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/daralas-tobouno.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/daralas-tobouno .mp3 George Dalaras HAROKOPOY 1942-1953 by Akis Panou (one of the BEST songs around) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/akipanou-xarokopou1942-1953.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/akipanou-xaroko pou1942-1953.mp3 Na'ne gluko to violi (may the violin be sweet) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/dalarasbagiantera-nanaiglykatovoli.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/dalarasbagiante ra-nanaiglykatovoli.mp3 Ti sou leei i mana sou (what does your mother tell you) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/dalarasskarvelis-tisouleemanasou.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/dalarasskarveli s-tisouleemanasou.mp3 Apostolis Kaldaras Mou Spasane ton Mpaglama (They broke my Baglama) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/kalderas-mouspasanetobaglama.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/kalderas-mouspa sanetobaglama.mp3 Ebiba Rembpetes (Cheers Rembetes) http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/kaldaras-ebibarembetis.mp3 - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/kaldaras-ebibar embetis.mp3 Hell it's time open up a Famous Groose, should have after the first song. ------------- To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent. |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 02:04
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Thanks! I'll post more links. too... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 09:40
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I added some zeybeks and Turkish folk songs to the previous list by Cengiz Özkan (The ones written with capitals). There are better examples but I couldn't find them yet... http://dc1.4shared.com/dir/26654/bebbca49 - http://dc1.4shared.com/dir/26654/bebbca49 ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 10:20
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Some knowledge about zeybeks: Folkdances, Costumes and Musical Instruments of Izmir ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 10:32
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Another zeybek by Muammer Ketencoglu: Su Ýzmir'den çekirdeksiz nar gelir Seedless pomegranate comes from Smyrna... http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/audio/mp3/zeybek_demo2.zip - http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/audio/mp3/zeybek_demo2.zip ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 10:46
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A clip of a very nice zeybek: http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/video/Muammer%20Ketencoglu%20-%20Fatmam_17348.mpg - http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/video/Muammer%20Ketencoglu% 20-%20Fatmam_17348.mpg It says: Oh my Fatma, my life, my rose Fatma I don't add water to my raki (a hard Turkish drink with alcohol) If you add, I won't drink it but I'll never leave you my Fatma ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 11:04
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Another wonderful zeybek by Muammer Ketencoglu... Entarisi damgalý (Her dress stamped)... http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/audio/mp3/zeybek_demo3.zip - http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/audio/mp3/zeybek_demo3.zip ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 19:10
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Guys. Thank you very very much. I listened all posted mp3. both greek, turkish, ive liked it. However, zeibekiko has quite balkans music sound. so I havent feel eastern soul in zeibekiko. I am not musician, but i think that zeibekiko has more "harmonic structure" than anatolian music sound and anatolian music has more "melodic structure" than zeibekiko. btw: I think that byzantine music has eastern soul. a sample. http://dl3.rapidshare.de/files/3890134/28878942/eastern_soul.mp3 - http://dl3.rapidshare.de/files/3890134/28878942/eastern_soul .mp3
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 19:28
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I see... What about these? These are old records of Greeks of Turkey from the 1st half of 20th century and they have the "eastern soul": http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_portal/medya/muzik/muzik_kulturu/rumeli/ime_prezakias.mp3 - http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_portal/medya/mu zik/muzik_kulturu/rumeli/ime_prezakias.mp3 http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_portal/medya/muzik/muzik_kulturu/rumeli/trava_re.mp3 - http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_portal/medya/mu zik/muzik_kulturu/rumeli/trava_re.mp3 Also many songs from Istanbul -Rumeli: http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_tr.asp?belgeno=35576 - http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_tr.asp?belgeno= 35576 ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 11-Aug-2005 at 21:50
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Well the first of these last songs you gave links to, the first is a classical Smyrneiko style, the second is a HasapoServiko (not sure if the Serbs have a similar rythm and we adopted it and from that we named it so). From your third link I found the http://www.kulturturizm.gov.tr/portal/kultur_portal/medya/muzik/muzik_kulturu/rumeli/telgrafin_telleri.mp3" class="aralink - Telgrafin Telleri song really interesting. While it starts out as a Pontian song/rythm "ekaeken to Tsampasin" it makes a quick 'turn' in it's rythm to a well known song which is actually a syrto which is a clearly an ancient Aegean dance style/rythm. It seems influence has gone both ways. ------------- To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent. |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 12-Aug-2005 at 02:02
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Another interesting song is "Uskudara gider iken". I read somewhere that it was adapted from a Scottish march when the British navy came to visit Istanbul... Also attention to bakmýyor cesmisiyah, please. It was sung by Hamiyet Yuceses. Her surname means "great voice". You will see how it fits her when you hear her "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"s!
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2005 at 12:12
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A clip that shows how to dance a very old zeybek from Ýzmir/Smyrna: Harmandali: http://dc1.4shared.com/account/file.jsp?id=337909 - http://dc1.4shared.com/account/file.jsp?id=337909 ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2005 at 21:01
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Kotumeyil, look at that. http://dl4.rapidshare.de/files/4735676/78965545/1._yannis_tassios_-_ti_patheno.mp3 - http://dl4.rapidshare.de/files/4735676/78965545/1._yannis_ta ssios_-_ti_patheno.mp3 That song is not zeybek, but very close to anatolian music style. Very interesting. ------------- |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2005 at 03:02
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2005 at 03:04
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It sounds like middle Anatolian, maybe from Cappadocia... In the last part of it there's also some south-eastern taste... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 10:13
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I found an interesting zeybek instruction video, it's not a widespread style from the Aydin-Bozdogan region, Bozdogan Serenler Zeybegi: http://rapidshare.de/files/11030058/serenler_0001.wmv.html - http://rapidshare.de/files/11030058/serenler_0001.wmv.html ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2006 at 03:38
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kotumeyil ,thankyou for this thread. I have developed a real taste for this stuff but have yet to learn allot about the 'schools' or anything technical. even better i now know that there is a turkish equivilant. |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2006 at 03:48
| where is this "Bozdogan Serenler Zeybegi" from? |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2006 at 04:15
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It's from a county of Aydin-Bozdogan. There was something as Aidiniko in Greek as well, wasn't it? ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Periander
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 03:41
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A great Rebetiko and Amane singer is Stratos
Payoumtzis. I have many Rembetika CD's here, it is my favourite Greek
genre, and by that I mean pre-post-War (if that makes sense). Manolis Chiotis unfortunately, mucked things up when he introduced the four-chord bouzouki in the immediate post-war era and the fact that he also electrified the bouzouki. This meant that rembetika lost tehir Eastern (cf Turkish) flavour and became wholly European with a cheapened Turkish sound. Still, even in the 50s and 60s there were some good Greek rembetika, but it was not the classic sound any longer (I am one the purists). I am curious, in Turkey, do the men still dance zeimbekiko alone? That's how it used to be in Greece too. Now women also get up to dance it... (and no, I am not sexist) One more question for our Turkish friends: Is the old style or rembetika (sorry for any incorrect spelling) still palyed in Turkiye? Is the master still in the centre in the teke or hamam? I will have more to post on this issue as time goes on. Glad to see that people like Markos Vamvakaris here! My favourite Rembeti too  . Anyone here like Anestis Delias and Markos Melkon?
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 04:46
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There are male and female zeybeks and some new coreographies include both in folk dance groups. However, in its natural form the rhytm determines the sex of the dancer. Mostly the slower ones with a courageous air are danced by only males.
It is sad that also here in Turkey the music is dominated by market anymore. The tekkes and hamams are part of old fashion now. You can still find such playing bands in Istanbul but though they are some degenerated (also there are a few people who dedicately play them in meyhanes (raki and wine houses). Also there's a dedicated man called Muammer Ketencoglu, who plays old zeybeks of Anatolia as well as Balcan music.This is his perfect album for Anatolian zeybeks: http://rapidshare.de/files/12292547/Karanfilin_Moruna.rar.html - http://rapidshare.de/files/12292547/Karanfilin_Moruna.rar.ht ml In the following link, you can click either of his groups' links to listen some of his demos: http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/gruplar.php - http://www.muammerketencoglu.com/gruplar.php
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Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 10-May-2006 at 22:47
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Bump This is for kotumeyil for creating this great thread Album: Vromiko Psomi (dirty bread), 1972 Song: Zeibekiko Composer / Singer: Dionysis Savopoulos greecetravel.com/music/musicfiles/savopoulos-zembekiko.mp3 I like this song very much. It has been performed by several other artists, but the original recording is the something else! It starts as a rembetiko (in the beginning the only instrument playing is a baglamas), but later it advances as rembetiko-rock! Also, I found a site with info on the history of Rebetika and Laika in Greece and some of the most important composers and singers. It also has links to rebetika/laika/zebekika songs (many of them have already been posted in this thread). http://www.greecetravel.com/music/rembetika/ ------------- 
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-May-2006 at 03:36
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Thank you, for reviving this thread, Neoptolemeos Some of the files I uploaded are expired now. Soon I'm gonna refresh them. New examples and instruction videos will come. By the way, if you can find a zeibekiko dance video, it would be very nice ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 12-May-2006 at 05:31
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I tried to find a good zeibekiko video on the net without much success... I found a few videos on youtube http://youtube.com/results?search=zeimbekiko&search_type=search_videos&search=Search - click_here but they don't worth much. The last one would be very good if the picture quality wasn't so poor. The guy dances one of the best zeibekika ever! "To zeibekiko tis Evdokias" by Manos Loizos. You can download this song here: http://www.tavernaoliva.ru/music/evdokia.mp3 - http://www.tavernaoliva.ru/music/evdokia.mp3 The original recording of this song is slower and much better IMO. I have it in my collection and if somebody wants it PM me and I can send it by e-mail. -------------
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 12-May-2006 at 13:44
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Thank you, Neoptolemos. Here's Bozdogan-serenler zeybegi instruction video (I fixed the broken link): http://rapidshare.de/files/20283594/serenler_0001.wmv.html - http://rapidshare.de/files/20283594/serenler_0001.wmv.html ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 12-May-2006 at 14:13
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And here's harmandali zeybegi instruction video (again, I fixed the old link): http://rapidshare.de/files/20287032/harmandal__0001.wmv.html - http://rapidshare.de/files/20287032/harmandal__0001.wmv.html ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23-May-2006 at 13:12
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Uskudara gideriken is an ancient byzantian song. But all balkan countries claim it as their own (bulgaria, serbia, bosnia, etc) so even if origins are dim it is certainly widespread. The chorus was even ripped by Boney M with their 70ies discohit "Rasputin". There are many versions, Eartha Kitt made one where she sings in Turkish.
For an old Greek (Istanbul rum) version, check out the soundtrack version of Yannis Saoulis.
For modern performers of turkish rembetika interpretation there are plenty to check out. Here are just a few suggestions out of many (saz, baglama & buzuki is central):
Fuat Saka (he covers many balkan, anatolian and caucasus styles):
- Simdi ne yapar
- Zeybetiko Topraga Asik
- Lazonasi Berepe
- Romana (vocals also in other language)
- Yildizlara Yolculuk (vocals also in greek)
Yeni Turku (they have covered many classical rebetika songs):
- Maskeli Balo (aka Pes Mu Pos Yinete)
- Kayikci (O Kaixis)
- Eski Dostlar (pes to nai)
- Kapris (Xatzhkuriakeio)
- Teli teli teli
- Yedikule (argiles)
- Cevriye (Aman Katerina Mou)
- Bulutlu Pazar (Sinifiasmeni Kiriaki)
- Gun dogarken
- Telegrafin telleri
- Madam Eleni
- Kulhani
- Akdeniz akdeniz
Fikret Kizilok:
- Istanbul (vocals also in greek)
- Olmasin Varsin (with Bulent Ortacgil)
Grup Trakya
- Istemem Babacigim
- Aman Minos
Grup Tsifteteli
- Beyoglu''nda Gezersin
- Kalenin Bedenleri (aka Tsifteteli Turkiko, vocals also in greek)
Selda Bagcan:
- Cifte Ciftetelli
Hursid Yenigun (many of his songs are more commercial laika):
- Ah Ege Ah (Raki-Roka)
- Kalenin Bedenleri (aka Tsifteteli Turkiko, vocals also in greek)
- Zeybekiko Mi Ma Finis (vocals in greek)
- Her aksam
- Oyle sarhos olsam ki
- Sirtaki Zorba
- Mangali Yaktin Mi
Yenigun Muzik:
- Ummu
- Ege'nin Cocuklari
- Kanatlani Anilar
Zulfu Livaneli (has covered many of Theodorakis songs and also made albums with Theodorakis as well as Maria Farantouri):
- Memleket Kokulu Yarim (sirtaki style)
- Hep seni anar
- Geceleyin
- Selam Olsun
Grup Gundogarken (several songs in laika style, also cooperation with Vasiliki Papageorgiou):
- Pismanim
- Bodrum 1972
- Istanbul Atina Istanbul
- Sarmas dolas
- Hayallerimi Birak
Tanju Okan (commercial syrtaki style)
- Kaderim
- Cyk Git Icimden
- Her aksam
- Oyle sarhos olsam ki
Rafet El Roman
- Hanim Eli
Kudsi Erguner (originally a sufi componist, but check out his "Rembetiko From Istanbul") with ensemble:
- Yedikule (Argiles)
- Zeybek
- Karabiberim
Istanbul to Athina (mixed group):
- Telgrafin Telleri
- Argiles (yedikule)
- Aman Katarina Mou (Cevriye)
Bosphorus (mixed group):
- Galata Koprusunde (greek vocals)
- Zeybek
- Bad-i Saba , Madem ki Ben ir Insanim
Anatolia (mixed group):
- Uskudar'a Gider Iken
Haluk Levent:
- Samos'lu Dimitris (rebetika with a touch of rock)
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Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 03:22
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I didnt know that thread.I opened a thread named as "Rembetiko"
I give you links about rembetiko and rembetiko radios.
Vamvarakis is the best artist of the "Tekke"music.
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http://www.live365.com/stations/rebetis - http://www.live365.com/stations/rebetis
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembetika - http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembetika turkish info for turkish friends.
http://www.greecetravel.com/music/rembetika/ - http://www.greecetravel.com/music/rembetika/
http://www.rebetiko.gr/EN/INDEX.ASP - http://www.rebetiko.gr/EN/INDEX.ASP |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 03:31
Alparslan1071, thank you for your nice contributions . I have a huge archive of Rembetika. If you look for some specific artists, I can share them with you.------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 04:00
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now I m listenning a greek radio.rebet music.I give you a radio link .that s wonderfull.Full of greek folk music radio station listed. My favorites http://www.live365.com/stations/rebetis - http://www.live365.com/stations/rebetis
This is huge source about greek music.
http://www.e-radio.gr/ - http://www.e-radio.gr/
I stopped drinking 3 years ago.I was drinking every night.I was an "aksamci" but those they passed.Now I am not drinking even a drop of beer.So when I found that rebetiko radio station after 3 years I really wanted put a bottle of raki or uzo on the table with melon and feta cheese.
I dreamed that i meet with my greek friends and drink raki together and listen rebet musics and listen their rum stories about old istanbul and tatavla.
Music is life kotumeyil really.
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 04:30
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You're right Alparslan, music is life; especially for me. I'm an amateur musician and I like to play ethnic music, including rembetiko. I know the taste of what you dreamed very well... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 09:56
| do you live in Istanbul?It s a nice city isnt it? |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 09:58
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No, I'm living in Ankara but yes Istanbul is a nice city. ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2006 at 04:51
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do you habe mp3 of markos vamvarakis? |
Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2006 at 04:52
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do you have mp3 of markos vamvarakis? |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2006 at 13:57
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I think I have a few but I'm on holiday now. When I return to Ankara, I can share with you:) ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 07:25
| thank you very much.iyimeyil |
Posted By: Digenis
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 10:40
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awsome thread ! ------------- |
Posted By: akritas
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 12:02
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http://www.allempires.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1465&FID=26 - kotumeyil
very nice thread.I am love with rebetiko (part is the zeybekiko)
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 18:30
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yeah, i think so too komshi
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Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2006 at 14:27
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i love rembetiko and bambarakis.But i do not understand what he says.
Frangosyrani for example.Any greek friend translate it parakalo?I know that he is half orthodox half catholic.
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Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2006 at 07:15
Quite simple lyrics:
There's a flame in my heart
as if you have bewitched me, sweet girl from Syros (Frangosyriani-by "Frango" means catholic-half the island's population is Catholic)
I'll come to meet you down by the sea-side
I'd like to cover you with kisses and caress you
We'll go to Finika, Parakopi
Yalisa and Delagratsia, even if I'll have a heart attack.
At Pateli, at Nihori, great time at Alithini
and at Pisko it's romantic my sweet Frangosyriani.
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Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2006 at 02:06
Great dancer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzLKVbjhdM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzLKVbjhdM -------------
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Posted By: Alparslan1071
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2006 at 00:52
| Yiannis, Efharisto Poli.Very nice words.I find very similar those all rembetiko song to old turkish songs. |
Posted By: Sean_85
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2006 at 23:12
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This is fantastic! This discussion has
been going on for over a year and people are still posting! Never have
I found so much discussion, interest and information on the origins of
Greek zeimbekiko and Turkish Zeybek music, it has such a rich and
colourful history. In Greece this music is still extremely popular today, hit songs with the zeimbekiko beat are topping the charts more than ever. People old and young in Greece and Greek communities throughout the world continue dancing to this music in Taverna's, clubs, bars, parties, concerts and festivals. Some modern zeimbekiko songs seem to becoming very westernised yet others are sounding more Turkish than ever, when I say Turkish I mean the style of singing, not so much the background music. In Greece the zeimbekika seems to have developed into part of the pop culture where as in Turkey it appears to be preserved more as folklore, not that I'm an expert. I don't know how to post links but if anyone would like to download some great samples which show some Commercial modern Greek zeimbekiko songs here are a few... Themis Adamantidis - Ma Pou na pao Nikos Kourkoulis - Tis Zoeismou Ta Feggaria Pashalis Terzis - Fevgontas Pashalis Terzis - Epistrofes Anna Vissi - Na Se Kala Make sure you use the right spelling! These are just a few songs which show the variants of what zeimbekika has become. Who knows what the future for this music is! In 10 years time the Greek variation may have developed into something entirely different, where as in Turkey it may very well be perfectly preserved as a folk dance piece barely changed from when the true zeybeks danced with their swords in the 13th century. Please keep your posts coming people! |
Posted By: Sean_85
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2006 at 23:22
| Sorry it is Pashalis Terzis - Epistrofes Katastrofes |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 09:17
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hi sean, welcome to the 'good part' of the AE community, yes there is the flames in other discussions but ouitside of that, there are some very respectful members from both sides of the aegean and one of the reasons why i keep coming back. i had time to kill 2 years ago and i was in a greek music store and with 2 hours spare i found pashalis best of album (heard of him only a little b4) all i can say is im hooked and became a instant fan. ------------- 
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 12:04
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uhm uhm sorry it hasnt anything todo with zeybek or zeimbekiko(?) but its worth watching, anatolian fire eurovision performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWoU8s08piY ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 15:35
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Hi, it's nice that people are still interested in this topic There are some new zeybek videos on youtube. In this one two young men dance with a famous zeybek (coketrme) in a wedding or meeting without a coreography:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scnKhkZjrpQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scnKhkZjrpQ
The following videos show how zeybeks (bandits) dance together with a coreography. This one shows 4 zeybek dances; 1-Süslü Jandarma 2-Zaide 3-Kostak Ali 4-Hantuman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntPvc5kzr4E&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntPvc5kzr4E&mode=related&search=
I don't know the name of the following dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-ZcPmlYPk&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-ZcPmlYPk&mode=related&search=
This is Bozdogan Serenler zeybegi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spAbzujnbGk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spAbzujnbGk
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Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 15:45
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Uskudara gideriken is an ancient byzantian song. But all balkan countries claim it as their own (bulgaria, serbia, bosnia, etc) so even if origins are dim it is certainly widespread. The chorus was even ripped by Boney M with their 70ies discohit "Rasputin". There are many versions, Eartha Kitt made one where she sings in Turkish.
"Uskudara giderken" is actually an Ottoman song, Uskudar (Greek Scutari,Chrysoupolis) was actually under Ottoman rule 100 years before Istanbul.
The song "Uskudara Giderken" is a Mehter Band millitary march song and is famous across Europe because they sung it everywhere they went
p.s Great thread, keep the tunes comming. ------------- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine |
Posted By: Sean_85
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2006 at 22:20
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To Kotumeyill, I watched those zeybek links they were great... Have u
seen any of the modern Greek Zeimbekika being danced? The style has
been changed quite a bit. |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2006 at 05:29
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thanks kotumeyil is a zebek mean bandit orgianlly? edit: is there any history on orgins, pictures on this dancing? edit 2: i reconise alot of the moves (in the second link, i think the 'zaidi') though it is more restrained version dayI i like the bellydancers -------------
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2006 at 16:26
Yes I've seen Sean. As you said before, in Turkey zeybek dances are more preserved as a folkloric dance.
@ Leonidas, yes, zeybek is the name of this type of music, dance and the bandits. Their chief is called "efe" like Chakici Mehmet Efe, who is also mentioned in some Greek zeimbekikos. ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2006 at 14:13
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Zeybek dance has a very interesting story, its danced in such a vast geographical area, from the Altay in Central/Eastern Asia to Greece.
Zeybek in old Turkic has a meaning of "protective armour". Also there is a name Saybek. Say = Strong/Sturdy/Compact Bek = A title of honour In Western Anatolia the Turks had a regional accent where they say S as Z so it became Zaybek. There was a Aydin Beylik, Gazi Mentese, a leader of which was recorded as being Saybek Mantasa. Its most likely from this derivation Also Efe's who were Robin Hood type characters, greatly respected by the public. The Oghuz had an old tradition being the "Segmen(prnounced Seymen) tradition, famous Efe's used this tradition. The Efe's were due to their activities sometimes known as "bandits". There dance became the dance of the bandits. ------------- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 22-Oct-2006 at 06:32
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found some of pasxalis terzis video clips here are my picks Afise me mono http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CITT91Bhuec Paliokairos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JafQWX4Uds Feugontas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqTpD8o6dtI -------------
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 22-Oct-2006 at 08:55
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Thank you for the videos Leonidas. The following is the Youtube link for a nice zeybek (I gave it before). The dancing man is Stelyo Berber. AFAIK he's the nephew of Patriarch Bartholomeos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sUHYS7kCs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sUHYS7kCs ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 23-Oct-2006 at 09:22
gezz i didnt see that one before. man that could be anywhere in greece. (my fav song in my last post was the middle one) BTW im very angry, work just cut out youtube and i cant show a coople of greeks our videos-------------
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 17:33
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hey guys in this thread there are several Turkish and Greek music, enjoy it. sorry i forgot to add link http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=32880 ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 08:19
Dayi, you need a login to see that thread -------------
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 17:56
I only give the link of that forum because if i gave whole links to the music i'll make here an warez-forum. Leonidas, it is maybe worth for you to register there...
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 17:58
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ZEYBEKLER 2002
Klarinet SOMALI MUSTAFA Asma Davul BERGAMALI MESUT Trompet ARAP  01 - Zeybekler - Harmandali 02 - Zeybekler - Aydin Zeybegi 03 - Zeybekler - Mugla Zeybegi 04 - Zeybekler - Cokertme 05 - Zeybekler - Vardar Ovasi 06 - Zeybekler - Aslan Mustafam 07 - Zeybekler - Ormanci 08 - Zeybekler - Sabah Guvende 09 - Zeybekler - Tavas Zeybegi 10 - Zeybekler - Soma Zeybegi 11 - Zeybekler - Zeytinyagli 12 - Zeybekler - Cifte Telli http://rapidshare.com/files/457953/Zeybekler-Zeybekler_2002.rar.html - http://rapidshare.com/files/457953/Z..._2002.rar.html Code: MIDILLI i'll give the credits to "skopelos" who uploaded those. ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 18:01
i think this is interesting:
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 17:40
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Thank you DayI; especially the last ones reflects the common culture very well ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 17:53
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George Dalaras - Mes tou vosporou ta stena
On the Bosphorous  Bogazicinde Yanni ve Mehmet Oturur yanyana aksamlari Aglar Yanni Ve Mehmet icerek soyler sarkisini: Ben Turkum sen Rum Ben de halkim sen de halksin Senin inancin Isa benimki Allah Ama ikimize de dusen ah ve vah Biraz sevgi ve biraz sarapla Sende sarhos olursun,bende Al ic tasimdan Adelfi ve kardesim Ben Turkum sen Rum Ben de halkim sen de halksin Senin inancin Isa benimki Allah Ama ikimize de dusen ah ve vah Μες του Βοσπόρου Μες του Βοσπόρου τα στενά ο Γιάννης κλαίει τα δειλινά και ο μεμέτης πλάι του πίνει και τραγουδάει του Τούρκος εγώ κι εσύ Ρωμιός κι εγώ λαός κι εσύ λαός εσύ Χριστό κι εγώ Αλλάχ όμως κι οι δυο μας αχ και βαχ Με λίγη αγάπη και κρασί μεθάω κι εγώ μεθάς κι εσύ πιες λίγο από το τάσι μου αδέρφι και καρντάσι μου Τούρκος εγώ κι εσύ Ρωμιός κι εγώ λαός κι εσύ λαός εσύ Χριστό κι εγώ Αλλάχ όμως κι οι δυο μας αχ και βαχ http://dosyam.net/?id=607fcb - http://dosyam.net/?id=607fcb sorry mods, sorry kotumeyil i had to post it because i've liked it and think you'll like it also. ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2006 at 18:14
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Fikret Kızılok was also singing this song in Greek... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2006 at 13:24
well here's the link of that music song by Fikret Kizilok and Bulent ortacgil http://rapidshare.com/files/1269850/Katerina.mp3.html ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 01-Nov-2006 at 11:25
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Im here again for sharing Turkish - Greek rembetiko music! SİRTAKİ - GREEK FOLK MUSİC  DİNLEYİN EZGİLER SİZE HİÇ YABANCI GELMEYECEK 01 - Syrtaki 02 - Hasapikos 03 - Aptaliko Zeibebiko 04 - Hasaposervikos 05 - Karsilamas 06 - Sirto Rodou 07 - Pentozali 08 - Zorba's (Syrtaki) Dance 09 - Hasapikos Dance 10 - Zeybebiko And Tsifteteli Dance 11 - Servicos Dance 12 - Syrtos Dance http://rapidshare.de/files/26576691/Greek_Folk_Music_-_Syrtaki.rar.html - |
Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 01-Nov-2006 at 21:07
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Thanks for sharing DayI George Dalaras - Mes tou vosporou ta stena On the Bosphorous Can you repost the link? It doesn't seem to work for me. -------------
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Posted By: Batu
Date Posted: 07-Nov-2006 at 12:07
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i am a pro a Turkish folk dance.folk dances in the black sea region is
the same as Pontus Greek dance.(music of the dance is also the same)
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 13-Nov-2006 at 09:50
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Kardesim kai Sunellines you have a good time here,e?
My little contribution with some http://hellasangels2.com/Rempetiko.html - Rebetika |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2006 at 15:02
hey guys lissin to this Pontos Greek music especially people from Turkey should lissin to the voice alone, they will say from wich region it comes  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27kh-JzIW0 ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Brainstorm
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2006 at 05:51
Oh mine ,what a picture!Dancing syrtaki and Parthenon's columns-ancient glory! Anyway ,real culture and people 's music are really interesting both in Greece and Turkey. Mix and influence gave birth to excellent authentic expression through music. Keep on the good work guys! |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2006 at 13:08
I found an interesting article by Nikos Politis on how the zeybek dance turned into zeibekiko in the 20th Century:
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Posted By: Sean_85
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2006 at 19:11
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That was a very interesting article Kotumeyil, really answers a lot of
questions! I haven't been on here for a while and it's great to see
this topic is still going. I'm actually from Australia but my mother is
Greek background I would love to go to both Greece and Turkey to really
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 10:22
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Two zeybek dances by a talented young man:
Kostak Zeybegi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zYqgHkle4&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zYqgHkle4&mode=related&search=
İnce Hava Zeybegi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WiZvvEb210&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WiZvvEb210&mode=related&search= ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 16:42
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Upon request, harmandali zeybek on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8boVuWK4_Y#GU5U2spHI_4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8boVuWK4_Y#GU5U2spHI_4 ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2007 at 16:12
Jeniffer Lopez dances harmandali zeybegi :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfXd8MgVByU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfXd8MgVByU ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2007 at 06:43
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Softer - modern, but ill add it here and bump the thread Sfakianakis (one of my prefered singers) O-aetos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--4EbQ_f1QE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--4EbQ_f1QE Genethlia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z5XSh6St9A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z5XSh6St9A and more pasxalis terzis (love this song for months id play it very loud and sing while driving) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyJDtLmmRg&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyJDtLmmRg&mode=related&search= Parastratimahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SkAEfdYodc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SkAEfdYodcjoint singing effort for me and fiance (she loves this next song) Den Thelo Tetoious Filous (live sound is poor) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjjxsJar1c&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyjjxsJar1c&mode=related&search= maybe not zeibekiko but definety what i consider 'Greek blues' anyway check out the cryinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yIVfBHRZQ4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yIVfBHRZQ4 edit: my dad is shedding a tear or two right now, because i showed him. Terzi is the best |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 19-Apr-2007 at 10:27
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Thank you Leonidas for these beautiful songs. This is a really sad song in Turkish sung by Stelios Kazantzidis - Makber (from the poem of great Turkish poet, Abdulhak Hamit Tarhan): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX77-O09JC0&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX77-O09JC0&mode=related&search= ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2007 at 05:49
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thanks kotumeyil, different language familiar sound. is the lyrics posted in the comments complete?
may i add, thats the first youtube addition that is friendly between Greeks and Turks. normally that website is the front-line battle ground! |
Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2007 at 06:05
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Stelios Kazantzidis rocks!
 I liked this song as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRwuDdqbAzk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRwuDdqbAzk
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