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Topic: Korean and Japanese
Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Subject: Korean and Japanese
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2004 at 17:23
Should they really be in the same group, and what Languages are they most similar too.

From what I know, Korean and Japanese are related gramtically...and the two most similar laguages to Korean Are Tamil and Turkish....



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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 21:21

well I cant tell the difference when I look at them...lol

 

and thatsbad cause half of my family is Japanese.   But when I see an angry Asian lady I just assume she hasa hideously high pitched voice, and is a Dragon Lady,sorry. 

 www.alllooksame.com



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Posted By: demon
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 05:26

omg...on that website, I ended up selecting either Chinese or Japanese



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Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:58
I went there and now I think I did something wrong.......

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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 17:39
12 out of 18...i'm decent

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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 20:47
14 out of 18, thats pretty good I think, maybe Im better at telling than I thought.

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Posted By: I/eye
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 02:47
11/18...bah.. I'll wait till they speak to tell them apart

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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 17:13

ok heres a questio...why do Chinese and Korean wors always seem to stay so monosylabic?

From what little I know you can tell the difference like this, Chinese sounds like "ching chang chong" (lol I bet those are real chinese ords too) and Korean has more of a vowel and y sound like "hyong myong dyeug" wheres Japanese strikes me as strange for its ords are very long and elaborate sounding.



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Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 19:49
Some korean words seem very monosyllabic because they are borrowed from Chinese...ie the word country
Chinese:  Guo
Korean:  Gook
Japanes:  Goku

There are a lot or Korean words that are not monosyllabic like Grandfather:  Harabuji

BTW, Korean Names are not always 3 syllables....if you look at some of the ancient Korean names they sound a lot like Japanese names...well at least a few of them...

The longest Korean name I know of is of a king...it was Adalla Isagoom, followed by Ijinashi




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Posted By: Evildoer
Date Posted: 18-Sep-2004 at 20:00

Japanese language is very limited in terms of pronounciation. They tend to prounounce things very shallowly, without deep vowels, r's etc.

Olympic -> Olim-piku

Back -> Baku

Hot Tea -> Hoto...  (What kind of mutation is this one!?!?!?)

I hate this language. As a Persian in this forum said of Arabic, I find Japanese "the most disgusting language I have ever heard".  



Posted By: I/eye
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 08:37

gubuk: Isagum was a title meaning "king" not his name

and even today, there are names with 2 or 4 syllables



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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 12:38
I think Vietnamese is the grossest laguage, especially because they have such nasty accents and high pitched-ness.

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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 17:00
Originally posted by Evildoer

Japanese language is very limited in terms of pronounciation. They tend to prounounce things very shallowly, without deep vowels, r's etc.

Olympic -> Olim-piku

Back -> Baku

Hot Tea -> Hoto...  (What kind of mutation is this one!?!?!?)

I hate this language. As a Persian in this forum said of Arabic, I find Japanese "the most disgusting language I have ever heard".  

              for the first time, i agree with Evildoer...  japanese is indeed a very shallow and not too sophisticated.

              and for those mutations of english words...i feel exactly the same!!!

i work in a japanese restaurant and i constantly have to put up with those mutations....no they don't say sushi set, they say sushi "seto"

             an even funnier one is hot pot is pronounced as "HOTO POTO" lol

             but they've been doing the same mutation/corruption thing for so long with chinese words already...they can't do that sudden stop in the pronounciation of a word that we have in chinese.

                for example: baat=hachi

                                      baak=hyaku

                                      gok=koku/goku

 the japanese chefs in my restaurant keep on insisting they hear this "mu" sound in the word kimchi...so kimchi in my restaurant in pronounced as "kimuchee"



Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 19-Sep-2004 at 22:46
oh yeah Ive heard that kim-oooooooooooooooooooooooooo-chee thing too

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Posted By: hansioux
Date Posted: 29-Sep-2004 at 14:01

Well, once again....  I refuse to accept the Mandarin should be used as the standard of Chinese pronounciation.  In more traditional Chinese the word for country °ê is pronounced Gok.  It is a half tone work which is the essence of Chinese language but is missing from mandarin.



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Posted By: phoenix_bladen
Date Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 23:05

i thought japanese sound good........but iguess everyone has different tastes

 

but i think taiwanese mandarin sounds good

have you ever listened to some songs ?

korean....average...sometimes it sounds bad

and vietnamese sound really really bad...maybe cause i haven't gotten used to it...but ti is really really bad especially some songs turned me down....

o mannnn i hope cantonese doesn't sound bad but from what i heard it does........damn cause i'm native to it!!

 



Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2004 at 13:30
I seem to have a Mongolian Language fetish...it just sounds so cool to me...

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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 07-Oct-2004 at 14:50

Me too

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Posted By: Shifty Russian
Date Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 01:04

Far Out!!!

4/18

That's horrible - i claim my self to be the King of telling people apart. Especially now that I live in Sydney, CBD - where there's a large Asian population - Prodominantly Chinese, then Korean, Malaysian, Japanese and then Indonesian and Singaporean being the minorites in respective orders.

Personally i thought the test was pretty damn hard - And designed to be that way - because I think - a few seemed to be mixed-blood (most politically correct way of saying it i guess)obsorbed by other cultures and Westernised. (i'm not sure where they got their participants from) And don't take my words too lightly - a friend of mine who introduced me to this server is Chinese (babyblue) - I'm every day in an internet cafe 80% of the visitors of asian decent. And once had a Japanese girl friend (not to mention all the Asian friends I had in school)

11/18...bah.. I'll wait till they speak to tell them apart

I guess hearing them speak does help

Given my constant contact with people from an array of Asian countries - can any of you explain why i did so bad??



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Posted By: babyblue
Date Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 02:16

because u suck shifty...



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