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Topic: US presidential elections, Donald Trump
Posted By: Mosquito
Subject: US presidential elections, Donald Trump
Date Posted: 03-May-2016 at 07:38
As the previous thread was highjacked, lets continue here the discussion about US elections and the black horse of elections - Donald Trump.

Recently I have found quite and interesting article:


“A NATION'S GREATNESS DEPENDS ON ITS LEADER

To vastly improve your country and truly make it great again, start by choosing a better leader. Do not let the media or the establishment make you pick from the people they choose, but instead choose from those they do not pick. Pick a leader from among the people who is heart-driven, one who identifies with the common man on the street and understands what the country needs on every level. Do not pick a leader who is only money-driven and does not understand or identify with the common man, but only what corporations need on every level.

Pick a peacemaker. One who unites, not divides. A cultured leader who supports the arts and true freedom of speech, not censorship. Pick a leader who will not only bail out banks and airlines, but also families from losing their homes -- or jobs due to their companies moving to other countries. Pick a leader who will fund schools, not limit spending on education and allow libraries to close. Pick a leader who chooses diplomacy over war. An honest broker in foreign relations. A leader with integrity, one who says what they mean, keeps their word and does not lie to their people. Pick a leader who is strong and confident, yet humble. Intelligent, but not sly. A leader who encourages diversity, not racism. One who understands the needs of the farmer, the teacher, the doctor, and the environmentalist -- not only the banker, the oil tycoon, the weapons developer, or the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbyist.

Pick a leader who will keep jobs in your country by offering companies incentives to hire only within their borders, not one who allows corporations to outsource jobs for cheaper labor when there is a national employment crisis. Choose a leader who will invest in building bridges, not walls. Books, not weapons. Morality, not corruption. Intellectualism and wisdom, not ignorance. Stability, not fear and terror. Peace, not chaos. Love, not hate. Convergence, not segregation. Tolerance, not discrimination. Fairness, not hypocrisy. Substance, not superficiality. Character, not immaturity. Transparency, not secrecy. Justice, not lawlessness. Environmental improvement and preservation, not destruction. Truth, not lies.

Most importantly, a great leader must serve the best interests of the people first, not those of multinational corporations. Human life should never be sacrificed for monetary profit. There are no exceptions. In addition, a leader should always be open to criticism, not silencing dissent. Any leader who does not tolerate criticism from the public is afraid of their dirty hands to be revealed under heavy light. And such a leader is dangerous, because they only feel secure in the darkness. Only a leader who is free from corruption welcomes scrutiny; for scrutiny allows a good leader to be an even greater leader.

And lastly, pick a leader who will make their citizens proud. One who will stir the hearts of the people, so that the sons and daughters of a given nation strive to emulate their leader's greatness. Only then will a nation be truly great, when a leader inspires and produces citizens worthy of becoming future leaders, honorable decision makers and peacemakers. And in these times, a great leader must be extremely brave. Their leadership must be steered only by their conscience, not a bribe.”
― Suzy Kassem, Rise Up and Salute the Sun: The Writings of Suzy Kassem





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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche



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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 04-May-2016 at 00:46
by the way Hitler's words about the nation were the same!Very ignorant person among the rest is this Trump.In the time of mobile phones and online libraries ?!?What does vanity makes to people!?!


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 04-May-2016 at 08:36
Do you realise that not everything what Hitler was saying or doing was bad or evil? However it always becomes favourite leftist argument to compare someone with Hitler and to discredit such person in this way, instead of discussing.

For example Hitler was protecting animals and creating national parks. Will we stop doing it because Hitler was doing it? Will we stop building motorways because Hitler was building motorways?

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 04-May-2016 at 09:22

BBC Pop Up: Indians reflect on possibility of President Trump


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36196069 - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36196069

What do Russians think of Donald Trump?


http://www.bbc.com/news/36155109 - http://www.bbc.com/news/36155109


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 04-May-2016 at 15:48
Looks like Trump already won in the republican camp.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 27-Sep-2016 at 14:42
Im already sure that Trump dont want to win the elections.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 01-Oct-2016 at 04:47
As you wish...regards.Smile


Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2016 at 09:00
This (below) was an email i received some time ago on Trump.
Several things seem to confirm my  suspcious and/or are disagreeable to me including:
- blond/German/kkk links
- pope/"Christian"/bible/harlot (& French / Scottish) links (& word "quintessential"?) (Romney?)
(- mobsters link.)
- 3 times married; "likes" the women alot.
- Businessman / rich / real estate agent
- eastern bloc connections?
- Israel/Jewish links.
- numerology/dates ("70 yrs", 1946, 1999, 1966)
- party hopper/changer.
- casinos.
- bankruptcy that effected others.
- no open stance against water fluoridation that i know of?
- immigrants.
(No that doesn't mean i like Clinton/Dems. I don't like either of them.)

Fwd: Mr. Trump stats....interesting info.   21 May 2016 at 14:34

[start quote] "            Specifications:

                    *   Donald John  Trump, was born June 14, 1946. 
                    *   He will be 70  years old on election day.  
                    *   From the  Internet, he is 6'2" or 6'3' and weighs between 195 and 200  lbs. 
                    *   He has a full  head of blond/brown hair (which is long and elaborately combed) and blue  eyes. 
                    *   The Internet  tells us he wears a size 12 shoe.
                    *   Donald Trump  was born the fourth of five children who were born over eleven  years. 
                    *   The oldest,  Mary Ann, was born in 1937 and is currently a Federal  Judge.  
                    *   His older  brother, Fred Jr, died in early adulthood as a result of complications from  alcoholism. 
                    *   He has another  older sister, Elizabeth and a younger brother,  Robert.  
                    *   Donald Trump  has been married three times. 
                    *   Trump's first  wife, Ivana, was an immigrant from Czechoslovakia
                and a divorcee who has  been married 4 times in her life. She is a lifelong
                avid skier and worked in  design at the Trump  Organization. 
                    *   Marla Maples,  Trump's second wife is an actress and model 
                    *   Trump's third  wife, Melania is an immigrant from Slovenia (born in Yugoslavia) and has  been a super model.  
                    *   Two of Trump's  children, Donald Jr and Ivanka, have gone to Penn.
                
                Son Eric, went to  Georgetown. 
                    *   Donald Trump  tells us that he is Presbyterian.  
                    *   Donald  Trump  does not appear to have had any interest in occults, mysticism  or exotic mythologies. 
                    *   Donald Trump's  oldest daughter, Ivanka, and her three children are Jewish. 
                    *   Trump's oldest  daughter, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner who
                is, among other things, a  newspaper publisher. The Kushner family is very successful in New York City  area real estate. 
                    *   Donald's  grandmother, mother, first wife, and third wife are all  immigrants.
                    *   Donald Trump  was born and raised in Queens NY 
                    *   Though his  family was very wealthy, Trump's boyhood home in the
                Jamaica  Estates section of Queens was not a grand mansion. The Trump home was
                a  larger version of the homes Fred Trump was building for his  tenants. 
                    *   There are no  indications that the Trump family lived among the wealthy elites on  vacations or country clubs. 
                    *   Queens is the  largest of New York's five boroughs and the most ethnically  diverse. 
                    *   Trump attended  a local private day school, the Kew Forrest School, in  Queens until about 8th grade. 
                    *   His secondary  schooling was at New York Military  Academy which is about 60 miles north of NYC in Cornwall on  the Hudson. He was the class of 1964. 
                    *   Trump was never  a "Preppie". 
                    *   Trump never  embraced any aspect of the "Hippie" movement of the  time. 
                    *   Trump was  a very good high school athlete - football, soccer, and
                especially baseball.  He had potential to become a professional baseball  player. 
                    *   Even in high  school - Trump liked women and women liked him 
                    *   Trump was  generally popular in high school. 
                    *   Trump's  boarding school room mate liked him. 
                    *   He attended  Fordham University in NYC for two years and
                transferred to the University of  Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. 
                    *   At that time,  the Wharton School offered a rare program for Real Estate  Business.  
                    *   Though he was  of age, Donald Trump did not serve in Vietnam. 
                    *   He was not  drafted due to bone spurs in his heels (4F) and also student  deferments. 
                    *   Ultimately, in  the draft lottery, he drew a high number.
                    *   By all we know,  Donald Trump does not smoke, drink or use
                recreational drugs. He'll be the  first President in more than 25 years who hasn't smoked  weed. 
                    *   BTW: Trump's  children don't smoke or drink 
                    *   Trump makes it  well known that he enjoys sexual interaction with  women. 
                    *   I am unaware  that Donald Trump is a recreational gambler. 
                    *   His doctor  publicly announced Donald to be in excellent  health.
                
                I  think that to really know Donald Trump, you must know his family  background.
                The  Trump family story is a very American story.
                
                Trump  family history - concise version.
                    *   Donald Trump's  grandparents immigrated to the U.S. from Alsace
                (Kallstadt, Germany) which  throughout history has been alternately French and
                German. The Trumps are  German, originally speaking the same German dialect
                as the Amish of  Lancaster County, PA. 
                    *   His maternal  grandparents lived in Scotland.  
                    *   Freiderich  (Drumph) Trump made a small but respectable fortune in
                the late 19th Century  in the mining boom towns of the American Northwest. 
                    *   He returned to  Germany to marry his childhood neighbor, Elizabeth  Christ. 
                    *   The newly  married Trumps resettled in the Borough of Queens NY  
                    *   Freidrich was  establishing a Real Estate business in Queens when he died suddenly at age  49 (1918). 
                    *   In 1920, at the  age of 15, Fred Trump (Freiderich's son and
                Donald's father), started a  business partnership with his widowed mother called Elizabeth Trump &  Son. 
                    *   This business  was built upon the real estate holdings that his
                father, Frederich, had  amassed (worth about $500,000.00 in today's dollars).
                This is the original  "seed money" of the current Trump  Organization. 
                    *   Elizabeth &  Fred remained close business partners her entire life (she died in  1966). 
                    *   In 1936 Fred  Trump (age 31) married Mary Ann MacLeod (age 24) of Stoneaway  Scotland. 
                    *   During the  depression, Fred Trump built and successfully operated
                a supermarket (a new  concept at the time) which was sold to King Kullen Co. and  operates this day. 
                    *   Fred Trump made  a lot of money building housing for the military during  WWII.  
                    *   Fred Trump was  investigated by the Justice Department for making
                "excessive profits" from  government contracts. 
                    *   All (or nearly  all) of the building of Elizabeth Trump &  Son's
                non-government building was residential property in  Queens. 
                    *   Fred Trump died  in 1999 (age 94) - beloved and worth between $250 million and $300 million.  His wife died a year later.
                
                "The  Donald's" career
                Donald  Trump is the greatest career achiever of the "baby boomer"  generation.
                Donald  Trump has reached the zenith in his careers as book author, TV
                entertainer,  sports entertainer, Real Estate developer, and currently  politician.
                    *   Donald Trump  has authored more than 18 books. At least one of
                them, The Art of the  Deal was a top seller. 
                    *   Donald says  that the Holy  Bible is his favorite book. The Art of
                the  Deal is his 2nd favorite book. And The Power of Positive  Thinking by
                Norman Vincent Peale is his third favorite  book. 
                    *   He likes golf.  Donald Trump has developed more than 11 golf courses which bear his  name. 
                    *   Donald Trump  has twice been nominated for an Emmy Award 
                    *   Donald Trump  has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 
                    *   Donald Trump  has been inducted to the Professional Wrestling Hall of  Fame. 
                    *   Donald Trump  has appeared in more than a dozen movies such as Home Alone 2, Zoolander, and  Little Rascals  
                    *   Donald Trump  has been a guest actor in more than 6 TV shows such
                as Fresh Prince of  Bel Air, Days of Our Lives, Sex and the City, and  others. 
                    *   Trump has been  the Executive Producer of 7 TV shows. 
                    *   Trump has been  the guest host of 5 TV shows such as Extra, Larry
                King Live, and  Saturday Night Live and more. 
                    *   Donald Trump  has been co-producer of the longest running reality TV  show. 
                    *   Donald Trump  performed in several WWE wrestling shows. 
                    *   Donald  performed in Wrestlemania 23 which set attendance records and revenue  records up til that time.  
                    *   In his first  candidacy for public office, Donald Trump received the most popular votes  for the President of the United States out of a field of experienced  and successful politicians. And in most cases, he achieved this with less  money than any of his opponents. Keeping  in mind that 90% of start up businesses fail, Trump's record of
                enterprise is  nothing short of amazing.
                
                Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
                enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,
                Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class
                beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model
                management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry.
                    *   There are 31  buildings that bear his name. 
                    *   The largest  private real estate development in New York is Trump Riverside. Drive down  the Henry Hudson Blvd. - you can't miss them. 
                    *   There are at  least 12 Trump Towers 
                    *   There are at  least 6 Trump Plazas. 
                    *   There are at  least 11 Trump Golf Course developments  
                    *   And much, much,  more in real estate. 
                    *   Trump  Entertainment, casinos and resorts was recently sold to Carl Ichan. 
                    *   Donald Trump's  personal managing of the Wollman Ice Skating Rink
                project in the early  1980's is the quintessential case study for MBA
                students in Wharton,  Harvard, and other business schools. His performance there was  phenomenal. 
                    *   Donald Trump's  privately held businesses have employed more than 200,000  people. 
                    *   In the casino  business in Atlantic City, Trump had to do business
                with known mobsters -  and he stayed "clean" and alive. 
                    *   Aside from his  personal investments, Donald Trump has never been a Wall Street  "player".
                
                The  Political Trump:
                about  1967 - 1987 - Democrat (he was a supporter of Ronald  Reagan)
                1987  - 1999 - Republican
                1999  - 2001 - Reform Party (he supported Ross Perot)
                2001  - 2009 - Democrat
                2009  - 2011 - Republican
                2011  - 2012 - Independent
                2012  - Present - Republican
                
                Donald  Trump was openly supportive of Mitt Romney's candidacy.
                Donald  Trump does not seem to hold political party organizations in high  regard.
                For  the most part, his political involvement has been for practical  reasons.
                Donald  Trump does not appear to be held to political  ideology.
                
                Some  of my take aways:
                    *   Trump has an  extraordinarily energetic central nervous system much like Teddy Roosevelt  but more targeted to industry and enterprise. 
                    *   Trump's  presidency will be very energetic, transparent, and  communicative. 
                    *   Trump will be a  very hard working President. 
                    *   His interaction  with his older brother (who everybody loved) tells me that he thinks that  everybody is like him - or wants to be - or should  be. 
                    *   His  relationship with his older brother was a hard lesson in tolerance for  him. 
                    *   Trump is the  Babe Ruth of career achievements.  
                    *   He is dumb like  a fox. When you think he just said something stupid - he didn't. It's just  that you were not his target audience. 
                    *   Trump knows the  people - the folk. 
                    *   His son, Donald  Jr. is right. Trump is a "Blue Collar  Billionaire". 
                    *   More than  anything, his TV show, The  Apprentice, was his passion.
                He wants all Americans to have  confidence (like he does) to venture. 
                    *   Donald Trump is  attracted to and marries smart, high achieving  women. 
                    *   The highest  levels of a Trump Administration is certain to have many women - and they  will be bright and assertive. 
                    *   Donald Trump's  children are very important to him. And it shows. " [end quote]

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Water fluoridation ("kool-aid", wormwood) wrecks disadvantaged peoples (like me) lives/health/ability.



Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2016 at 11:03
A GOP senator described Trump as a "malignant Clown" and withdrew his support.
At least 100 top Republicans are calling for him to step aside and allow Mike Pence to become the GOP candidate.

As for me, DJT is a fraud and an ego driven empty suit. His dealings in Atlantic city alone, left many people destroyed.
None of his casinos have survived. A fact he sometimes seems to be proud of.
A billionaire, he hasn't paid any taxes in 18 years and actually stated he's proud of that.

He is unfit to be President of the US. He's unfit to have the Nuclear launch codes.

   

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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2016 at 12:12
Its definately the choise between bad candidate and bad candidate. Because corrupt Hilary is maybe even worse than DJT.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2016 at 14:29
Mike Pence is bad & pro-Rome too.

Mike Pence:
religion "Evangelical Catholic". His family were Irish Catholic Democrats. "When asked if he believes in evolution, Pence answered "I believe with all my heart that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that’s in them."
"Pence was raised in a Catholic family, serving as an altar boy and attending parochial school. Pence became a born-again Christian in college, while a member of a nondenominational Christian student group in college, identifying his freshman year—and specifically "a Christian music festival in Asbury, Ky., in the spring of 1978"—as the moment he made a "commitment to Christ." After that point, however, Pence continued to attend Mass (where he met his wife) and worked as a Catholic youth minister. Pence called himself Catholic in a 1994 news piece, although by 1995, Pence and his family had joined an evangelical megachurch, the Grace Evangelical Church. In 2013, Pence said that his family was "kind of looking for a church." Pence has described himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order," and as "a born-again, evangelical Catholic.""
"During the 1990 campaign, Pence ran an ad in which an actor, dressed in a robe and headdress and speaking in a thick Middle Eastern accent, thanked his opponent for doing nothing to wean the United States off imported oil as chairman of a House subcommittee on energy and power. In response to criticism, Pence's campaign responded that the ad was not about Arabs"
"In regards to adopting the gold standard, Pence stated in 2011, "the time has come to have a debate over gold and the proper role it should play in our nation’s monetary affairs". Pence proposed legislation to end the dual mandate of the Federal Reserve...."
"Pence has stated his support of Israel and its right to attack facilities in Iran to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons, has defended the actions of Israel in its use of deadly force in enforcing the blockade of Gaza, and has referred to Israel as "America's most cherished ally". He visited Israel in 2014 to express his support, and in 2016 signed into law a bill which would ban Indiana from having any commercial dealings with a company that boycotts Israel."
"Pence seen as strong pro-Israel voice". The Times of Israel.
"Pence "has been a longtime, aggressive advocate of trade deals" between the U.S. and foreign countries."
"Pence voted ... in favor of keeping the U.S. in the World Trade Organization; and in favor of permanent normal trade relations with China."
"Pence's strong stance in favor of free trade sharply differs from the stance of his running mate Trump, who has condemned globalization and the liberalization of trade. Pence voted against the Trade and Globalization Act of 2007, which would have expanded trade adjustment assistance to American workers adversely affected by globalization."
"In 2014, Pence called for the "swift adoption" of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), urging Indiana's congressional delegation to support the trade deal."

Only thing all US presidential candidates 2016 have in common is Rome connection(s) (and no stance against water fluoridation).
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36505
David Duke : "Catholics encouraged to apply for [kkk] membership".



Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2016 at 15:43
It is not what they believe but what they do=did and say=said!THIS is 1000 x Circus!Just take remote control and change the program.Period.Bad dream i hope.


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2016 at 23:18
Originally posted by medenaywe

It is not what they believe but what they do=did and say=said!THIS is 1000 x Circus!Just take remote control and change the program.Period.Bad dream i hope.



We all hope it's a bad dream. I've never seen such BS in an election as this one. Both sides are guilty of some twisting but Trump and his PACS are just flat out fabricating, lying. It's the dirtiest campaign ever.

And Trump just continues to display how unfit he is for the office of POTUS.



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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2016 at 23:20
Originally posted by Mosquito

Its definately the choise between bad candidate and bad candidate. Because corrupt Hilary is maybe even worse than DJT.



Too bad, you drank Trumps Koolaide.

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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 12:06
Not at all!

In the normal country there would be a state investigation about corruption charges.

Are those informations truth or false?










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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 13:29
You need to go to an independent fact check site and Bill Clinton isn't running, she is.

But that aside, Trump refuses to release his tax statements. They would reveal his crooked dealings.
It's well known that real estate deals and development in NYC doesn't happen unless your working with organized crime.

Another matter, Trump has shown by his actions that he's morally reprehensible, sexist and racist.
Your buying into his attempts to make Clinton look worse than he is. To the majority of voters, including the top republicans, it's not working.

The only reason you think he's great is his anti Islamic and anti immigrant stand.
Most of his proposals are unconstitutional and wouldn't make it through the courts.

What has the Republican party in a panic is the very real possibility that they will lose control of the Congress.

There is a general call from the GOP for him to step aside and let Mike Pence take his place.

He has even stated he'd withdraw from NATO, and openly admires Putin, thinks he's "a great guy".
That should worry you much more than Hillary.





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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 15:38
[TUBE]4V2ymPV6GZg&related[/TUBE]

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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.


Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 15:48
Originally posted by red clay


He has even stated he'd withdraw from NATO, and openly admires Putin, thinks he's "a great guy".
That should worry you much more than Hillary.

Good point. Even Russian nation supports Trump 


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 17:10
Poland spend 2% of GDP for its military. Thats what Trump expects from all NATO countries. I think that he already has won most of votes of 10 millions of Polish Americans.

Guliani and Trump recently met with Polish-American Congress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV29MuEm3xo


[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV29MuEm3xo[/TUBE]



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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 17:29
Originally posted by red clay

You need to go to an independent fact check site and Bill Clinton isn't running, she is.


I belive the Clintons got only one pocket.

Originally posted by red clay


But that aside, Trump refuses to release his tax statements. They would reveal his crooked dealings.
It's well known that real estate deals and development in NYC doesn't happen unless your working with organized crime.


So far I know there are no criminal charges against him.

Originally posted by red clay

Another matter, Trump has shown by his actions that he's morally reprehensible, sexist and racist.


By his actions he didnt show much. Only by his tongue. He talk a lot and most of his words he says in private are stupid. Thats a fact.


Originally posted by red clay

Your buying into his attempts to make Clinton look worse than he is.


I dont buy anything. I only say the Clintons including Hilary are not clean. They are sponsored by great corporations and foreign goverments.



Originally posted by red clay


The only reason you think he's great is his anti Islamic and anti immigrant stand.



I dont think he is great. I never did. As for his anti-immigrant and anti-islamic vievs I dont really care because it doesnt affect my own country. Its completely american problem if there will be coming muslim immigrants to USA.


Originally posted by red clay


He has even stated he'd withdraw from NATO, and openly admires Putin, thinks he's "a great guy".
That should worry you much more than Hillary.


It doesnt worry me at all. We dont have really any territorial disputes with Russia. And they are far from being able to attack and occupy us.

Americans arent anymore in position to guarantee our safety. China is a new rising power and they will soon replace USA in its role of superpower. Whats more it looks like the presence of US troops might be even dangerous for internal safety. Recently we saw USA supporting coup in Turkey, the siege of American base in Incirlik by Turkish army and evacuation of nuclear weapons from the base to Romania. This combined with the failed wars in Iraq and Afganistan did really damage US prestige in the world.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2016 at 23:15
Well know Al Capone failed on taxes and went to jail!But presidential candidate?It is shame for Republicans! Check candidate portfolio first people!


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2016 at 06:41
Originally posted by medenaywe


Well know Al Capone failed on taxes and went to jail!But presidential candidate?It is shame for Republicans! Check candidate portfolio first people!



I still think that taking money from foreign goverments and corporations is far worse than not paying taxes. Not to mention the fact that Clintons exploit this fundation and also dont pay taxes.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2016 at 15:01
'' You need to go to an independent fact check site and Bill Clinton isn't running, she is. ''

None worth a damn most personally will accept.. probably... other than those in refutation of the claims against her.

Same same for the Trump lovers.

Iow. there are none.

One cannot use the m-stream press as there in the bag for her..as ongoing Obama lovers must support the 'great leader's' choice...even when not necessarily their own.  08 proved that. Thereby continuing their homage and obedience. As the GL has determined she is his best legacy promoter. 

And the conservative outlets...? the same for the Donald.

Consequently behind... every so called non biased fact check agency to include independent and academic...there is....bias. For either her or her oppo. 

To assume other is ridiculous.

They lie when they deny it.


*Waste of time... concentrate on fishing.. the steelhead are starting to run again.

Buy gold-ammo and bibles.


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2016 at 20:29
Oh yeah, the high priest of irrelevance has spoken.

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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2016 at 20:42
Theater of the Absurd-

Based on the notion that Trump would lose in a landslide if only women voted, Trump supporters have started a movement to repeal the 19th amendment that gave women the vote.

This isn't a joke, it's very real, incredibly stupid, but real.







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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 07:19
I think that many women especialy religious and coservative will vote for Trump.

Women who are liberal, lesbian and pro abortion will vote for Hillary. Mostly such supporters of Clinton like this agressive one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxjbtzbm9Yk


[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxjbtzbm9Yk[/TUBE]



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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 09:07
I don't know what news is getting through over there, but women are fast becoming Trumps worse nightmare.



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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 13:16
Originally posted by red clay

Oh yeah, the high priest of irrelevance has spoken.

Yes no doubt in the eyes of the sycophantic devotees of the 'cult of the GL and his step child the Hillary...I am a 'deplorable'.

I according to the 'Alinsky model' must be 'retrained-reeducated'..marginalized..ignored..or..eliminated.

But alas that includes anyone who challenges and express's his or her counter..An ideology long promoted by the leftists.. as a mantra of self identification..yet all the while denied to their opposition by the same.

That defines as fascist. The leftists were always oligarchs. The fact they denied it merely reinforces the fact they are.

And that is never irrevelant..ask the dead men and women in a uniform who opposed it.



But they too have been ignored.

Otoh that too would be a waste of time.

Best bet?

Wait for the call.

The Christ is coming. But while you wait remember:

Matthew 7:15 King James Version

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.



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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 13:47
Originally posted by red clay

I don't know what news is getting through over there, but women are fast becoming Trumps worse nightmare.




I just think that I dont remember if ever before the Americans were so divided just because of elections. Its especialy visible that people who support Trump are openly attacked and insulted by liberals.

The stupid men's talk in the bus aroused to incredible crime in the eyes of liberals while they close eyes on all the misdeeds of Hillary.

In the mainstream media we can also observe incredible defamatory campaign against Trump without precedence in the past.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 17:07
Yawnzzzzzzzz.

Trump cannot be defended, even Chris Christy gave up on that. Conservative Republicans such as Paul Ryan same thing. Geo W Bush as well. These folks aren't Liberals, they are political and social realists.
Trump is on an ego trip, I don't believe he really cares if he wins or not. However the damage he's done to the political process might last for a very long time.

You can insult liberals [and seeing I am one, me as well] all you want, but this isn't a case of liberal vs conservative, it's intelligent common sense vs an ego driven empty suit, who could possibly be handed the Nuke launch codes. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, there's something wrong.




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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 18:57
''  but this isn't a case of liberal vs conservative, it's intelligent common sense vs an ego driven empty suit, who could possibly be handed the Nuke launch codes. If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, there's something wrong. ''

part of that is apt..but your defense of the Billary does you no credit..she's just an empty headed and ego driven as the 'current waste' of a republican nominee. 35 years of a review of her alleged public service confirms this.

The only thing to have feared is that they could have run together as a team. then as I noted earlier we really would have seen the rize of the oligarchy exposed.

As for the nuc code? That's already been given to the mad mullahs in Tehran viz the actions of the 'GL' and his former SoS. To late to piss and moan now. Or blame it on the 'empty suit'..Trump for in that we can agree..he's empty. They however, already in fine Alinsky fashion, have sold the store.

remember: ''But those who turn to crooked ways the LORD will banish with the evildoers.'' (Psa 125:5)



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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 19:06
Did I insult you or liberals in your country? I dont think so.

I just say what I see... from far.

There are two cadidates. One is an alpha male, egocentric, rich and independent who is use to talk a lot and his words are not always smart. During last 30 years he did everything what was possible to become some kind superstar. He did play episodes in every movie or TV show he was offered and finaly he had his own reality show. Strong and controvesial character who doesnt care for political correctness, what gives him both many fans and many enemies.

The second is an active politician and wife of an ex president, who became famous for impeachment and sexual scandals.
She is also partly responsible for US disastrous foreign policy at least during last 4 years.

She is for sure not clean. One should remember about Whitewater scandal and her role in it or her role in Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, email scandal and donators of her fundation who make buissnes with USA after paying money to Clintons.

She supported the invasion of Iraq and Afhanistan, a total failures of American foreign policy which highly damaged the prestige of USA.

She, together with her master Obama is partly responsible for ARAB SPRING, destabilisation of middle east, current war in Syria and most likely coup in Ukraine and failed coup in Turkey.

Obama and she were also completely outmaneuvered by Putin and Russia.

During last 8 years and especialy last 4 years the international prestige of USA felt really low. Many countries including eastern european are now taking pro-Chinese orientation. Even countries like UK, Canada and Poland joined to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) ignoring completly diplomatic objections of USA.

Few more years of such policy and USA will completely loose its international status.





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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 21:11
Originally posted by Mosquito

 
She is also partly responsible for US disastrous foreign policy at least during last 4 years. 

Is there any country left who wasn't offened because of Trump without Poland great friend Russia?

Trump can just buy the goverment like Turkey, Saudi Arabia with selling guns, but it should not be hard to see that how much American popularity will decrease after Trump.

Originally posted by Mosquito

 
She supported the invasion of Iraq and Afhanistan, a total failures of American foreign policy which highly damaged the prestige of USA. 

All you mentioned about in Republician period, which means republician politics.

Originally posted by Mosquito

 
Few more years of such policy and USA will completely loose its international status.


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Hillary Period will be worse then Obama's, but better then Trump's. 

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I was asking myself that how do people vote for Erdogan, now one more time, I get it.


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 14-Oct-2016 at 23:41
Did I insult you or liberals in your country? I don't think so.


Yes, you did. But not having a clue as to what a liberal really is, you didn't realize it.

CV knows, but never misses a chance to tweek me, as I never miss the chance with him.



Look up- Loyal Opposition




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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 15-Oct-2016 at 17:55
Jon Voight's plea to save America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-Md-Mit6Q

[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-Md-Mit6Q[/TUBE]



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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 06:33
Originally posted by red clay


Yes, you did. But not having a clue as to what a liberal really is, you didn't realize it.



Liberals - people who demand freedom of everything and responsibility for nothing

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 08:23
Alpha predator that avoid tax payment is worst solution USA have ever had Mosquito!If it continue like this i expect Bukowsky to be  ultimate choice for USA.By the way Henry Miller died long time ago.Vocabulary in campaign is close to their books.
http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bukowski - http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bukowski
NOTE: He have made a lot of girls famous but have no insulted anyone of them!


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 09:24
Originally posted by Mosquito

Originally posted by red clay


Yes, you did. But not having a clue as to what a liberal really is, you didn't realize it.



Liberals - people who demand freedom of everything and responsibility for nothing


Not even close and now you are aware your insulting me. Strike 2, keep it up, you only get 3.




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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 11:13
Originally posted by red clay

Originally posted by Mosquito

Originally posted by red clay


Yes, you did. But not having a clue as to what a liberal really is, you didn't realize it.



Liberals - people who demand freedom of everything and responsibility for nothing


Not even close and now you are aware your insulting me. Strike 2, keep it up, you only get 3.


No. I speak in general, not about you. However if you are so liberal, why are you denying me my freedom of speech?

Or it is classic liberal freedom of speech so common in media these days. People are free to speak whatever they want as long as they say things that liberals like.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 15:51
These American elections now start to look like those from early 30ties when Hitler and Nazis were running for power in Germany. However it looks like liberal followers of Clinton now adopted nazi methods but in the same time they accuse their victims from being "nazi"

http://nypost.com/2016/10/16/north-carolina-republican-office-torched-by-fire-bomb/

North Carolina Republican office torched by firebomb

WASHINGTON — A North Carolina GOP office was firebombed early Sunday while the culprits marked their hate for the party by spray-painting the words “Nazi Republicans.”

Hillsborough police are investigating the overnight attack on the Orange County Republican Party office that one GOP official called an “act of political terrorism,” according to the Charlotte Observer.

A flammable material was tossed through the front window of the HQ, setting it ablaze, while the vandals wrote hate graffiti of a swastika and “Nazi Republicans leave town or else” on an adjacent building, the police said.





Again people blame poor Vandals, tribe of brave people who took Rome and conquered northern Africa. I have no idea why liberal terrorists are called Vandals in the USA. The Vandals have never did anything like this.



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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 17:52
Yup...its the end times.. if I was u... I go visit the Black Madonna at Częstochowa and pray for the Americans.

Me...I'm stockpiling and drying fish. amen.


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 19:51
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Yup...its the end times.. if I was u... I go visit the Black Madonna at Częstochowa and pray for the Americans.
Me...I'm stockpiling and drying fish. amen.



Ill safe my prayers for better cause. Like for example US troops to leave my homeland before they try to initiate a coup here.




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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 20:05
tsk tsk... CT 'itis' is alive and well. To assume their there to institute such a coup belongs to then venue of the 60's and LSD delayed delusions.

But now we know what u really think about the Americans. You wont even waste a prayer on your best ally.

Sad.




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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Mosquito
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2016 at 20:11
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

tsk tsk... CT 'itis' is alive and well. To assume their there to institute such a coup belongs to then venue of the 60's and
LSD delayed delusions.
But now we know what u really think about the Americans. You wont even waste a prayer on your best ally.
Sad.



So far during last 25 years we were your faithful allies. Many our soldiers died in the name of this alliance. However I can only see one side profiting from this alliance. Most likely because we are not your allies but your vassal state. Ancient Rome also had many allies and those alliances did work exactly in the same way as our alliance.

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"I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood" - Friedrich Nietzsche


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2016 at 12:09
Mosquito, I moved your post to quarantine.

You continue to post unfounded anti American BS. You are quite aware of what your doing.

You are suspended.

Thread closed





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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.



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