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Topic: Wild Men and Moors
Posted By: superheru
Subject: Wild Men and Moors
Date Posted: 30-Nov-2015 at 08:14
I came across this while doing some research. I was wondering if anyone had any more information on these people? Both the Wild man and Moors?






Wild Men and Moors
Linen and Wool Slit Tapestry
Germany c1400


Series of scenes, wild men attacking Moors in castle, wild men fighting with lion, dragon, and unicorn, and wild men carrying food to wild woman with two children seated at foot of rocks; stylized trees, plants, rocks; stylized trees, plants, rocks; pinkish-red background covered with roses in two shades of pinkish-red, frames by diamond lattice formed by links of chain, blue, darker blue, and white. In lower part of tapestry, right half, a shield divided horizontally, upper half yellow with two red roses with blue conters, lower half black (Bl├╝mel, Alsace), same arms appear as manteling on helmet lower center of tapestry. On far right helmet surmounted by ibex horn with mantling red with two white stars (Zorn, Strassburg). Human faces woven without features, which are painted, possibly originally embroidered, some embroidery stitches survive. Weaving finished so back and face almost identical, except for faces. Colors include very dark blue (almost black), several shades of blue, green, yellow, orange, pink, red, and grayish violet.

the full tapestry can be viewed here.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/tapestry-wild-men-and-moors-106003



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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 30-Nov-2015 at 12:28
It's a representation of and presentation of 'black' imagery in Western Art. Specifically medieval. See: ''The Image of the Black in Western Art...''et. al. D. Bindman/H. Gates



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Posted By: Aeoli
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2015 at 03:54
Fair hair, tall physics, long toenails...  Confused 

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Posted By: superheru
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2015 at 07:10
Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

It's a representation of and presentation of 'black' imagery in Western Art. Specifically medieval. See: ''The Image of the Black in Western Art...''et. al. D. Bindman/H. Gates


i appreciate the response. 

Is this a true historical representation?? Im curious to why there isn't more emphasis on those dark figures in the castle. How and when did moors occupy castles in Germany?(in the 1400s)..or the wildmen emerging from the woods and participating in cannibalism...

 


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2015 at 15:35
The first questions can be answered by reading the link I provided...for that matter... the entire work which is exceptional...tho Art historian I am not.

As for contextual intent. That depends indeed on the era. More recently circa mid 20th century to the present...It is a reaction against bigotry and prejudice suffered by races of color...most probably as a result of the colonialism era thru the advent of Jim Crow laws, apartheid etc.

Iow. afaic. it became fashionable if you will, to use such presentations of such representations, as examples of the former...and their place, ntl, in the history of art. Thereby justifying the inclusion and worth.



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