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Topic: The Helmet Thread!!
Posted By: Perseas
Subject: The Helmet Thread!!
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 07:04

Post here pics from ancient armies Helmets!!

Spartan Royal Helmet

Another Spartan Helmet

Athenian Hoplite Helmet

Troyan Warrior Helmet

Argeian Helmet

Macedonian Helmet

Thesallian Helmet

 



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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 07:09

Chalkidean Helmet

 

Cretan Helmet

Eretrian Helmet

Macedonian Royal helmet

Royal Corinthian Helmet

Thracean Helmet



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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 07:23

Helmet with divine figures beneath a bird with outstretched wings, 14th century BC, Middle Elamite period :



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Posted By: tzar
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 07:47

Thracians helmets



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Posted By: TheodoreFelix
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 15:59

A hellenistic Illyrian Helmet:



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Posted By: vulkan02
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 16:06
assyrian helmet



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Posted By: vulkan02
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 16:12
celtic helmet (gaul)



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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 17:40

Celtic Helmet



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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 17:42

Viking Helmet



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Posted By: TheodoreFelix
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 18:03

Empirial Centurian Roman Helmet

 

Empirial Soldier Helmet

 

 



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Posted By: TheodoreFelix
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 21:38
Aeolus, do you mean only from antiquity or do you just mean old by "ancient" since you put a picture of a Viking helmet?

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Posted By: Quetzalcoatl
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 00:53
Originally posted by Aeolus

Viking Helmet

 

Viking helmet didn't have horns. Sometime myth is stronger than historical facts.

 

 French medieval helmets.

Templier(Templars)

Other medieval

 

 



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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:33

Originally posted by Iskender Bey ALBO

Aeolus, do you mean only from antiquity or do you just mean old by "ancient" since you put a picture of a Viking helmet?

Old, since i dont want to narrow much the scale.



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Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:39
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl

Viking helmet didn't have horns. Sometime myth is stronger than historical facts.

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Its not entirely myth. Mostly Norse priests among them wore headgears with horns in their religious cere

Its not entirely myth. Mostly Norse priests among them wore headgears with horns in their religious ceremonies. Strangely i read somewhere that Thracians wore helmets with horns too.



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Posted By: Gazi
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 16:08

Some Turkish helmets.Note that; because most warriors wrapped a white kerchief and made it look like a turban,most European "historians" believed that Turks were unarmoured.

 



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Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 13:10

One of my favourites. Attick style hellenistic helmet (2-3rd century BC). It looks almost modern!

Source: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/samuel/pages/grece.htm - http://perso.wanadoo.fr/samuel/pages/grece.htm  (in french)

http://www.redrampant.com/ancients/greekhelm.html - http://www.redrampant.com/ancients/greekhelm.html



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 14:10

                  

                

For more info and photos: http://www.turkishculture.org/weapons/armor/helmet.html - http://www.turkishculture.org/weapons/armor/helmet.html

    

 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 10:41

Bronce helmets 1000 bc. found in bog in Denmark. cermonial proberly

 

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Nationalmuseum of Denmark http://www.natmus.dk/sw4515.asp - http://www.natmus.dk/sw4515.asp link:

 



Posted By: mord
Date Posted: 13-Jun-2005 at 12:48

The helmets above are the "vikso" helmets.  I have an article from the Acta Archaeologia somewhere about them.  

As for "Viking Age" helmets, I've heard of two:  The first is the Gjermundr Helm--I have info on that as well, but for a quick reference see James Grahms-Campbell's "Viking Artefacts: a Select Catalogue" (1980).  The second I have read about in passing in "Rus Vikings" (2005) by Duczky. I have no other documentation than that, but apparently it was found in the early 20th century by someone named Sauzon, or something like that (the publication of is from 1903, and is extremely rare in the US ).

Other infromation can be gleaned from representational (pictorical) sources.  The Gotland stones.  Some carvings.

By the Way, what source stated that priest's of the vikings wore horned ceremonial helmets?  Adam of Bremin?

Mord.



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Posted By: Al Bedawi
Date Posted: 31-Jul-2005 at 19:03
Helmet I believe incorrectly labeled arab.




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Posted By: Pelayo
Date Posted: 31-Jul-2005 at 20:28


Posted By: BlindOne
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 14:25

Here is a Byzantine helm



Posted By: Belisarius
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2005 at 20:42
From what period? Infantry? Cavalry?



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Posted By: BlindOne
Date Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 06:32

You can find more information in that site

http://www.geocities.com/egfrothos/SpunDomeHelm.html - http://www.geocities.com/egfrothos/SpunDomeHelm.html

It is a recostuct from skylitzes book 12th century.this kind of helm is really common in skylitzes book, perhaps it was used by both infantry and cavalary! I really don't know more.



Posted By: Exarchus
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 06:41
Gallic Helmets (pictures from armae):







Norman:



Heaume:





Cuirassier Imperial:






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Posted By: Mangudai
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 07:08

Viking Helmets:

A reconstruction of a Spangenhelm-type helm (9th-11th centuries)

The famous Gjermundbu-helm, one of the few authentic Viking Helmets found (Norway, 10th century)

A 10th century sculpture from Sigtuna showing what kind of helmets Viking-warriors used:

 

Pre-Viking Scandinavian helms, found at Vendel and Valsgärde (early 7th century)



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Posted By: Styrbiorn
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 07:10
What is this? A helmet thread without a pickelhaube?



Posted By: Degredado
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 12:39
This may appear strange to some of you, but I think that the actual helmets the scandinavians wore, such as those shown by Mangudai, are far more interesting then the fantasy helmets made by bad propmen.

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Posted By: Mangudai
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2005 at 17:55
Yes, facts are always better than fiction

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2005 at 07:01
Here is a good example of a Corinthian Helmet.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2007 at 14:41
CANNOT UPLOAD JPEG IMAGES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA WHY THIS IS ?

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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 06:48


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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 06:55



type of illyrian helmets

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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 07:04


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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 07:09




helmet is Illyrian, derived from the other traditional type made originally of several sections riveted together. This one dates no earlier than the late 6th century B.C., by which time the method of manufacture had long been assimilated to that of the Corinthian helmet, and so these helmets were also made in one piece. As its type characteristic there are two raised ridges, beaten out in the metal and running along the crown, designed to ward off a blow from the seam in the centre, where in the earliest examples of this type the right and the left halves of the helmet were joined. The three lightly incised lines between the two ridges hark back to the guide lines along which this join had been made in the past. They were retained as part of the traditional appearance of the helmet long after they had ceased to serve a purpose, part perhaps of a magical 'rightness', necessary to satisfy customers, particularly those from beyond the Greek world.

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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 07:29


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Posted By: Giannis
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 08:36

It looks like the bronze helmet that was found in Sindos.

http://www.eng.auth.gr/macedonia/images/TheBigPictures/i37-1.jpg">547487%20bytes
 


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Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2007 at 09:11
Were the ribs on top of the helmets for decoration, or to help snap a sword or blund object that hit it?

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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 06-Sep-2007 at 07:48


helmet of GJERGJ KASTRIOTI SKENDERBEU.


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Posted By: Flipper
Date Posted: 06-Sep-2007 at 08:03
Originally posted by Giannis

It looks like the bronze helmet that was found in Sindos.

http://www.eng.auth.gr/macedonia/images/TheBigPictures/i37-1.jpg">547487%20bytes
 


If i'm not completely wrong i think Sindos was a city established by Corinthians from the begining so this makes sense.


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Posted By: etnosoul
Date Posted: 06-Sep-2007 at 13:21




This helmet was produced from a single sheet of metal, requiring a great degree of technical sophistication on the part of the smith. The helmet also has two distinctive raised ridges beaten out of the bronze that run along the crown. This striking feature is derived from earlier examples of the type that were made from seperate sheets of metal that were seamed together. The raised ridges would have protected the central seam from a striking blow. These ridges were retained as part of the design long after they ceased to serve a purpose. A horse hair crest may have run along the ridges. - (LA.511)




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Posted By: Giannis
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2007 at 05:19
Originally posted by Flipper


If i'm not completely wrong i think Sindos was a city established by Corinthians from the begining so this makes sense.
 
 
Propably you are talking about Potidaia, Sindos was established much earlier than the 9th century BC, the original name of it was Echedoros.


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Posted By: TheARRGH
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2007 at 13:18



Perhaps it wasn't the most effective helmet ever, but who can argue with the awesome idea of wearing an entire, full-size, eagle's face. On your HEAD. That's about 11 out of ten levels of great.


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Posted By: Sinnfein
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2007 at 14:00
Elmo Celtico-villanoviano/ Celtic-villanovian Helmet (Londra - British Museum)

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Elmo tipo "Montefortino"/Helmet Tipe "Montefortino" (Roma - Museo di Villa Giulia/Villa Giulia's Museum)

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Vista interna di clipeo/Clipeo's internal view (Roma - Musei Vaticani/Vaticans Museum)

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Elmo tipo "Imperiale gallico" /Helmet tipe "Imperial gallico"(Worms - Museum der Stadt)

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Elmo tipo "Imperiale italico"/helmet tipe "Imperiale italico" (Bonn - Museum fur vor und fruhgeschichte)

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Elmo tipo "Coolus"/helmet tipe "Coolus" (Londra - British Museum)

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Elmo tipo "Imperiale italico"/Helmet tipe "Imperiale italico" (Worms - Museum der Stadt)

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All images are from: http://www.alfamodel.it/Sezioni/Evo_Antico/Storia/soldato_romano.htm


Posted By: Tyranos
Date Posted: 08-Oct-2007 at 00:44

The Corithian style is still one of favorites.

 


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Posted By: Penelope
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2007 at 23:17

helmetofanglosaxonking.jpg%20image%20by%20FuQQmEE

A helmet of an Anglo-Saxon King, found at the Sutton Hoo ship buriel, possibly belonging to King Ethelbald who reigned from 856 to 860.


Posted By: Darius of Parsa
Date Posted: 22-Nov-2007 at 04:32
 
Sassanid Helmet
 
 
 
 
 
 
Corinthian helmet
 
 
 
 
 
 
Helmet from Sutton Hoo 410-865
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Penelope
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:04

That Sassanid helmet is pretty cool.



Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:12




The type Illyrian helmet originated in the Peloponnese and is Greek at 7th century bc the term "illyrian" is conventional just like all terms for helms.
Terms such as Illyrian and attic are used in archaeology for convenience to denote a particulat type of helmet and do not imply its origin.

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Greece & Rome at War

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Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:14





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Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:14





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Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:29

pilos greek helm as well



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Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:29


boar tusk mycynean


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Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:31

cretan

weird one!!!


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Posted By: olvios
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:35
Illyrian origin helms






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