Suedin = Sweden?!
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Topic: Suedin = Sweden?!
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Subject: Suedin = Sweden?!
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2014 at 02:10
I have talked about the relation between Goths and Guti people in several threads, like these ones:
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27064 - Gotvandi (Dezfuli), Guti and Gothic
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26972 - Tyr,Tiregan,Tirigan,Tervingi,Tyragetae,Targitaus
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28569 - Germanic Etymologies of Ancient Gutian Kings' Name
http://www.allempires.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30309 - Gothic/Guti invention of boat of skins? As you read I had also mentioned the ancient land of Alman beside the land of Guti, the name of Alman can be also related to Alemanni, another Germanic people.
But what I found today is another name: Suedin. It is interesting that it is the name of Sweden in the Persian language, like Alman which is the name of Germany in our language.
Primitive Civilizations: Or, Outlines of the History of Ownership in Archaic Communities, by Edith Jemima Simcox: https://books.google.com/books?id=_rfT9NQWku8C - https://books.google.com/books?id=_rfT9NQWku8C
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Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2014 at 10:49
That is interetsing. Is this a time when compass points were reverse?
- zodiacal: leo, taurus, aquarius, scorpio & aquilo/serpens - 4 archangels around throne: Michael, Garbiel, Raphael, Uriel - 4 rivers Eden: pison/havilah, gihon/cush, tigris/asshur, euphrates; - 4 kings in Genesis: elam/east, shinar/south, ellasar/north, goiim/west; - Semitic: east/kedem/front, west/behind/akharru, left/north/nertrak, right/south/jamin. - Babylonian: south/elam/left/[sw], north/akkad/uri/right/[ne], east/suedin&guti/subartu/behind/[nw], west/martu/amurru/phoenicia/front/[se]. - Enmerkar: Shubur/east, Sumer/south, Uri/Akkad/north, Ma(r)tu/west. - map: subir/N, amurru/W, elam/E, ?/s. - ziggurats/ragozin: sw/front, ne/behind/aralu, nw, se. - 4 astral gods: nergal/lion ninib/eagle marduk/bull nebo/human - 4 rivers Karduniash: T, E, Surappi, Ukni? - "to water the 4 regions of the earth". - "king of the 4 quarters".
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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 12-Jan-2015 at 03:05
It is interesting that there are still some places in the northwest of Iran with the names similar to Suedin, like this one: Sudin-abad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudinabad - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudinabad
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