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43,500-Year-Old Aurignacian Tools Found at Willend

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Topic: 43,500-Year-Old Aurignacian Tools Found at Willend
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Subject: 43,500-Year-Old Aurignacian Tools Found at Willend
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2014 at 11:53
That's some old stuff. Well stone ware is easy to wash.




''“The remarkably early date of the finds shows that modern humans and Neanderthals overlapped for much longer than we thought and that modern humans coped well with a variety of climates,” announced Philip Nigst of the University of Cambridge.''

http://www.archaeology.org/news/2538-140923-austria-willendorf-oldest-tools 

http://www.archaeology.org/news/2538-140923-austria-willendorf-oldest-tools - http://www.archaeology.org/news/2538-140923-austria-willendorf-oldest-tools




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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2014 at 12:04
I remember read, just a little while ago, how it was thought many Homo Sapien ladies favoured Neanderthal males. In my opinion such a connection is unlikely to have been an instant thing, or something lasting only a short period. So I would say these finding shouldn't come as much of a surprise.   

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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2014 at 14:38
Maybe they thought they could get the Neanderthals to do dishes.....

(Damn I'm good.)

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 24-Sep-2014 at 22:13
Aurignacian is not 43,500 yrs old.
Sumer, Sialk and Mohenjo Daro were Combe Capelids.
Indus climate was wetter/cooler. Old Kingdom Egypt was wetter/cooler (Cambridge Anc Hist).
Torrential rain marks at Sarmast's "Atlantis" site in Cyprus, Sphinx rain marks and Tepe Gawra indicate unstable climate after Flood.
There are evidences that ice age/s was/were contemporary with modern humans (Thor lowered sea levels (x3), Fimbul-weather (x7), ice age possibly alluded to in Job, etc).

“The remarkably early date of the finds shows that modern humans and Neanderthals overlapped for much longer than we thought and that modern humans coped well with a variety of climates....” As often they find something new and say different "than we thought", but they forget that they previously claimed things not possible or wrong, and can't see that other things they still saying now may not be right too.

Dinosaur bones under human bones in South America.
There was some orthodox old find in Australia evidencing that Australian Abos were contemporary with a period of the geological time scale but i can't find it or remember where it was that i saw it.
Evidences of humans/civilisation in every period of the Geological Time Scale ('Forbidden Archaeology' by Cremo & Thompson, and other sources.)
Azilian (mesolithic) pebbles found in lowest level at Beersheba (first mentioned in biblical in Abraham's time).

CroMagnons were equal/superior in body and brain to modern humans. CroMagnons may be the giants of biblical. Neanderthals were fully modern in post-skeletal, and they had equal/bigger brains. (Kolosimo claimed there are Neanderthal types in modern north(west) Africa.) Neanderthals could talk, had fire, buried their dead, had religion, took care of their sick/elderly, etc.



Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2014 at 00:07
Arthur-Robin, I'm sorry, what exactly is your objection to calling a find Aurignacian, within the right time period and geographical location?

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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.


Posted By: Arthur-Robin
Date Posted: 25-Sep-2014 at 01:58
I didn't say/mean it is not right to call it Aurignacian, i said/meant that Aurginacian/this site/'the right time period' is not 43,500 yrs old. The time period may be roughly right but not the date of the period.
If Aurignacian and Indus/Sumer/Egypt/etc are roughly contemporary then either Aurignacian is not so old date or Indus/Sumer/etc is not so young date. Imagine two parallel lines representing the sequence of time periods, but one has ascribed dates that are too old or the line is too long time. We just have to change the dates or shorten the stretched out line to reconcile the synchronisms evidence.

Here is an example from different places:

Orthodox dating:
11th/12th dyn -- patriarchs
Hyksos -- Joseph
19th dyn -- Moses
21st -- David
22nd -- Shishak

more true scenario:
1st dyn -- Abraham
3rd/4th dyn -- Joseph
12th dyn -- Moses
18th dyn/Amarna -- David
19th dyn -- Shishak

In the orthodox one the Egyptian dates are too early, the Egyptian line is too long (&/or the Biblical dates too late, the bibical line is too short).

So same goes here. The Aurignacian dates are too early.

ice age ~~ post flood unstable climate ~~ sphinx rain marks/tepe gawra houses
ice age ~~ Thor/Fimbulvetr/Job
Aurignacian/Combe Capelid ~~ Sumer/Sialk/Mohenjo-Daro
ice age/period after end of ice age ~~ Old Kingdom wetter/cooler, Indus wetter/cooler
Azilian ~~ Beersheba [~~ Abraham]

Sumerian/Indus are not 43500 years old. If they are near contemporary with Combe Capelid/ice age/post glacial then Aurignacian is not 43500 years old (which ascribed date is unproven).


The lengths/durations of the prehistoric periods are too long. An orhtodox atlas still has Upper Palaeolithics in n/w Europe in 8500 bc. (43500 - 8500 is 35000 years!)
Do the people ascribing these days possibly secretly know the truth and are encoding the real dates in their ascribed dates?

43500 ya/bp/bc = Aurignacian 4350 bc [preflood]?

43500 ya/bp/bc = 4350 ya/bp? = 4350 yrs before 1950/2000/2014 ad/ce = Aurignacian 2400/2350/2336 bc? close to Usher's date for Flood / Babel?
[Aurignacian 2400/2350/2336 bc + 1656 yrs preflood = Creation 4056/4006/3992 bc = close to "4004 bc" date of creation of Usher!??]

43500 ya/bp/bc = 43500 ya/bp/bc minus 1950/2000/2014 ad/ce = 41550/41500/41486 ya/bp/bc = Aurignacian 4555/4150/4148.6 bc [preflood]?

43500 ya/bp/bc = 43500 ya/bp/bc minus 1950/2000/2014 ad/ce = 41550/41500/41486 ya/bp/bc = 4155/4150/4148.6 ya/bp = 4155/4150/4148.6 yrs before 1950/2000/2014 ad/ce = Aurignacian 2205/2200/2198.6 / 2155/2150/2148.6 / 2141/2136/2134 bc?
[Aurignacian 2205/2200/2198.6 / 2155/2150/2148.6 / 2141/2136/2134 bc + 1656 yrs preflood = 3861/3856/3854 / 3811/3806/3804 / 3797/3792/3790 bc Creation.]


Nimrod was a giant/Gibbor and a hunter, and founded Shinar/Babel.
Cro-Magnons/Aurignacians were big/tall/superior and hunters, and Combe-Capelids founded Sumer.

Nimrod/Babel comes somewhere between the Flood and Abraham.
Upper Palaeolithics come somewhere between the Flood and Babel.
The Ice Age/s come/s somewhere between the Flood and Babel &/or Joseph &/or Job &/or Moses/Atlantis [&/or Elijah??].
The Babel catastrophe may be connected with Ice Age?

Homo erectus were meat eaters, and Palaeolithics were hunters. Meat eating (Noah) and hunting (Nimrod) is post-Flood.

Flood
Neanderthals ~ longevity?
Upper Palaeolithics ~ Sumer/Babel/Ninurta?
Azilian ~ Beersheba/Abraham?
WesternNeolithic/LakeDwellings ~ Joseph?
Megalithic ~ Moses/Og?
Stonehenge ~ Joshua/Gilgal?
Hallstatt ~ Gezer.





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