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The End of UFOs

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Topic: The End of UFOs
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Subject: The End of UFOs
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2014 at 02:20
Have the naysayers-debunkers and very real disinformation artist's in and out of government; to include the ufo-aficionado won?

Is it over?

Was it like the 'wall' a 50 plus year old aberration.


Has the almost universal dis interest in the mainstream science community (even though hundreds have subscribed to the idea that the phenomena is real), tied to the university grant system, other than SETI, finally seen it's day.


What about all those credible observers? Police-military-government?



Liars-hoaxers-wacked to a man?



What about other foreign states governments releasing data and investigating the phenomena?

What about the public at large? In a recent NG poll; 77% believe in aliens while only 66% believe Jesus was the Christ.

Obviously they all must be liberal, secularists, drinking 'koolaid' and living on the dole...the big American social wealth redistribution tit.

Or are they?

You decide and the following article may help stimulate your thinking.

As for me? I'll only say this...there is some strange shit on this world and I've seen some.... and there's probably a hell of a lot more than I haven't.


Some no doubt explainable. Some? Well if it wasn't the tiswin then there isn't one now. Or I haven't found it.


http://www.sott.net/article/271567-More-Americans-believe-aliens-have-visited-Earth-than-believe-that-Jesus-is-the-Son-of-God


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/end-of-ufos.html

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'




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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 14:30
Is there a specific point to all of your verbal meandering?

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 18:14
Is it the end?

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 18:26
When did ufo sightings begin, and why? Maybe in that knowledge there's a clue of some sort.

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 18:48
The history of sightings per se is centuries if not milieu old. The why is variable and multifaceted.

As it remains an international phenomena.


The why could be for any number of reasons. But is most probably, simply because the phenomena were an unnatural event (given the understanding of nature at any given contextual era) that caused fear or apprehension by or in the observer. Which was translated to the public at large.

In the modern sense, it can be traced, as far as American fascination is concerned, to Kenneth Arnold in June 1947, reference his observation of the phenomena, when flying past Mt. Rainier, WA.

This was later/preceded based on your understanding/dating/followed by the famous Roswell event. The date accepted by the USAAF was very early July 1947.


see: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case511.htm

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 19:18
Flying objects of unknown origin are recorded as far back as Biblical times, (Ezekial) and in the ancient texts of India.  Many argue that they are recorded in stone by the Mayans and Aztecs as well.

Are the sightings over?  No.  They have merely been back-burnered by a news media that can't squeeze any more mileage out of them, but television and Hollywoody continue to bombard us with a plethora of alien-based  programming.

The latest trend is towards USO's, the underwater version of the UFO's, and towards suspected underwater alien sites.

Mankind will eternally be consumed by a desire to find alien races.


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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 20:02
Originally posted by Mountain Man


Flying objects of unknown origin are recorded as far back as Biblical times, (Ezekial) and in the ancient texts of India.  Many argue that they are recorded in stone by the Mayans and Aztecs as well.Are the sightings over?  No.  They have merely been back-burnered by a news media that can't squeeze any more mileage out of them, but television and Hollywoody continue to bombard us with a plethora of alien-based  programming.The latest trend is towards USO's, the underwater version of the UFO's, and towards suspected underwater alien sites.Mankind will eternally be consumed by a desire to find alien races.


Nazca lines-Egyptian hieroglyphics (if not the pyramids themselves)-American petroglyphs-Sumerian script.

MM is spot on in this. And I agree with his summation. whether they are or are not is moot.



But I leave with you this:


Less evidence has been used to convict, in criminal courts, those on trial for murder.


There is more evidence available,that might be used in criminal court, and possibly accepted as accurate by a jury to advance their reality; than to deny them.


http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Invaders-from-Outer-Space/UFOs-in-Ancient-Times.html


http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/index.html


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 14-Aug-2014 at 20:29
Good time to review:  http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30626 - http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30626

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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'




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