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Topic: polar bear are going to die
Posted By: yomud
Subject: polar bear are going to die
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2013 at 08:24
i just heard in next 20 years all ice will melt so polar bear are going to die does any way we could save them ? we know they already eating each other damn Confused




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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2013 at 10:14
Paint them brown and send them here to Colorado.  Big smile

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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2013 at 11:09
Originally posted by Mountain Man

Paint them brown and send them here to Colorado.  Big smile

They will die so it is meanless but we can paint some of Colorado bears white and this seems polar bears still live Wink


Originally posted by yomud

i just heard in next 20 years all ice will melt so polar bear are going to die does any way we could save them ? we know they already eating each other damn Confused

They can die in wild life but not in ZOO. 

Polar Bear Population:20-25.000
Persian/Caucaus Leopard:1300
Asiatic Cheetah:100

Polar bears are important but some animals are in much trouble. 

and don't worry, god doesn't let them go 

With global warming, West USA and Chinese coast will see much more hurricanes as Katrina

First step is making awarness.
 


Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 07-Sep-2013 at 17:33
Thousands of species become extinct every year.  It's nature's way.

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Posted By: TITAN_
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2013 at 06:47
Originally posted by yomud

i just heard in next 20 years all ice will melt so polar bear are going to die does any way we could save them ? we know they already eating each other damn Confused




You "just heard" something that is totally wrong. Smile


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2013 at 11:27
The polar ice cap is melting.  Expected timeline is approx. 30 to 50 years and there will be no ice. However that doesn't mean the Bears will perish.  There is solid land in the north, they perhaps can adapt.
 
A Paleontology Fact- 95-97% of living things that ever populated our planet has gone extinct.  Over the last 500 million years there have been 5 major extinction events and a handful of smaller extinctions.  The Permian event wiped out 95 % of all life in the Oceans.  That's why it's referred to as, the "Great Dying"
 
Climate change is expected to effect about 30% of the Fauna we know have.  It's cyclical and part of the way our planet works. 
 
 


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Posted By: TITAN_
Date Posted: 08-Sep-2013 at 12:02
The polar ice cap has been receding over the last century but the rate of recession has fallen...

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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2013 at 03:23
Originally posted by Mountain Man

Thousands of species become extinct every year.  It's nature's way.

oh cmon nature's way or human way ?Ouch !!! your telling me one day all life on earth (including us ) will end ??


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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2013 at 03:26
and what if they couldn't continue their natural life they may die out ! could we just take some of them and release them in south pole ? with some inc deer and some other animal in south there are a lot of emperor penguin lives there


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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2013 at 03:28
Originally posted by ollios

]First step is making awarness
  agree the first think that come in my mind when i hear about melting was this london venice and istanbul will go under water !!!Confused this is not good Confused the second was some of the microbes  which sleeps in ice for so many years will free !!! and we will have new sickness Confused  lets anything els we could add here ??Confused


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2013 at 07:58
Originally posted by TITAN_

The polar ice cap has been receding over the last century but the rate of recession has fallen...
 
 
Polar Ice Caps Melting faster than ever-   http://www.dw.de/polar-ice-sheets-melting-faster-than-ever/a-16432199 - http://www.dw.de/polar-ice-sheets-melting-faster-than-ever/a-16432199
 
We have lost more ice in the last 20 years, than in the last 1000 years.  Greenland is melting faster than anywhere else.
 
 
 


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2013 at 10:50
Originally posted by yomud

i hear about melting was this london venice and istanbul will go under water !!!

Iranian cities in Khuzestan is also under the danger as much as  cities in Netherland. Many of them are located on river delta

London has a barrier on the Thames, İstanbul is end of the Mediterrerean so tides aren't strong also İstanbul is located on many hills (that's why using bicycle is smart act in this cityBig smile

but Venice ?

There are also other factors

bad effect: Ice shelds on polars reflect sunshine so earth doesn't get so hot, but if it gone, everything can be more quick. Land parts without the ice can take the heat instead of reflect

good effect: With increasing the heat plants which are near the polars, can make more photosynthesis 


Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2013 at 09:41
Ollios, London's Thames barrier is adequate at present, but there is meant to be another larger one built as it is thought this one would be swamped in the future.

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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 12-Sep-2013 at 19:52
Originally posted by Ollios

Originally posted by yomud

i hear about melting was this london venice and istanbul will go under water !!!

Iranian cities in Khuzestan is also under the danger as much as  cities in Netherland. Many of them are located on river delta

London has a barrier on the Thames, İstanbul is end of the Mediterrerean so tides aren't strong also İstanbul is located on many hills (that's why using bicycle is smart act in this cityBig smile

but Venice ?

There are also other factors

bad effect: Ice shelds on polars reflect sunshine so earth doesn't get so hot, but if it gone, everything can be more quick. Land parts without the ice can take the heat instead of reflect

good effect: With increasing the heat plants which are near the polars, can make more photosynthesis 
it's very good  to hear istanbul wont go under water but this is the fact the ports in all over the world will be destroyed  and the island nations are in real danger ! england is big island but there is so many island in the world which are not so big as england is and the will go under water for sure  but maybe we will have more rain since a lot of the ice are melting at least this is a good news Wink


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 13-Sep-2013 at 14:32
Originally posted by yomud

we will have more rain since a lot of the ice are melting at least this is a good news Wink

Not we yomud just some nordic lands, not countries in Middle East


Posted By: TITAN_
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2013 at 11:38
Originally posted by red clay

Originally posted by TITAN_

The polar ice cap has been receding over the last century but the rate of recession has fallen...
 
 
Polar Ice Caps Melting faster than ever-   http://www.dw.de/polar-ice-sheets-melting-faster-than-ever/a-16432199 - http://www.dw.de/polar-ice-sheets-melting-faster-than-ever/a-16432199
 
We have lost more ice in the last 20 years, than in the last 1000 years.  Greenland is melting faster than anywhere else.
 
 
 


The opposite is happening in the Antarctic... Wink


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2013 at 12:24
Originally posted by TITAN_

 
The opposite is happening in the Antarctic... Wink

News about Titan's words

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130401-global-warming-antarctica-sea-ice-science-environment/ - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130401-global-warming-antarctica-sea-ice-science-environment/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/08/100816-global-warming-antarctica-sea-ice-paradox-science-environment/ - http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/08/100816-global-warming-antarctica-sea-ice-paradox-science-environment/


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2013 at 10:30
I'm aware of this, I just don't believe it's man made, as one scientist proposed.  Global Precession is the wobble in the Earths orbit.  We have entered an age where the southern portion of the planet is starting to lean further from the sun, while the North is leaning closer to the sun.  It's been doing this for Thousands of years.  It takes 26,000 years to do a complete circuit.  Man has nothing to do with it.

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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 21-Sep-2013 at 13:23
Originally posted by Ollios

Originally posted by yomud

we will have more rain since a lot of the ice are melting at least this is a good news Wink

Not we yomud just some nordic lands, not countries in Middle East





so people will go to war for water this time ! Ouch  how can we fix this ? what about food do we have enough food for our people ?


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 22-Sep-2013 at 03:10
Originally posted by yomud

so people will go to war for water this time ! Ouch 

Most of country will face drought but the reason of war will be rivers which cross the borders

as Turkish rivers which goes to Syria and Iraq
as Nile; Sudan and Egypt don't want any Ethiopian dams on it. 
as Kyrgyz dams get anger Uzbeks  

Christians probably will fight for undersea resources while Muslims fights for water 

Originally posted by yomud

 what about food do we have enough food for our people ?

Drought is threating world important food production areas 

just as South Russia

 





Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 16-Nov-2013 at 22:45
Please consider most all of these future weather predictions via computer analysis, as mostly BS! These idiots love to scare the mind numb populace and receive more attention than they deserve.

Please learn to look at some relatively responsible web-sites that accurately tell of the ice cover in the world. Thus it seems that the ice cover in the Antarctic have increased over the last few years and for a while, at least, the cover over the Artic seemed to be shrinking, but it now seems the Artic is recovering its ice cap at a good rate.

Do not be afraid, that is what our "Green enemies", like Al Gore, want!

Regards, Ron


Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2013 at 03:35
"polar bear are going to die"

but think of how many seals they've killed, there's blood on them paws.


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2013 at 09:58
Originally posted by Toltec

"polar bear are going to die"

but think of how many seals they've killed, there's blood on them paws.


but think of how many fish and penguiens survive just because of polar bear  Big smilehttp://gallery.photo.net/photo/4512965-md.jpg

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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2013 at 10:52
Originally posted by Ollios

Originally posted by Toltec

"polar bear are going to die"

but think of how many seals they've killed, there's blood on them paws.


but think of how many fish and penguiens survive just because of polar bear  Big smilehttp://gallery.photo.net/photo/4512965-md.jpg

I think maybe that the polar bear and penguin are of different hemispheres.


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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 17-Nov-2013 at 12:16
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

I think maybe that the polar bear and penguin are of different hemispheres.


Embarrassed, nothing can escape from your eyes Clap. However same mentality is still on. Polar bears keep stable the number of some minor carnivores which helps some other species


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2013 at 13:58
Originally posted by opuslola

Please consider most all of these future weather predictions via computer analysis, as mostly BS! These idiots love to scare the mind numb populace and receive more attention than they deserve.

Please learn to look at some relatively responsible web-sites that accurately tell of the ice cover in the world. Thus it seems that the ice cover in the Antarctic have increased over the last few years and for a while, at least, the cover over the Artic seemed to be shrinking, but it now seems the Artic is recovering its ice cap at a good rate.

Do not be afraid, that is what our "Green enemies", like Al Gore, want!

Regards, Ron
 
 
You can ignore the reality if you wish.  But the fact remains, that the Artic Ice cap and the Greenland IC are retreating. We have lost more ice in the last 20 years than in the past 1000.
 
Greenlands climate has changed so drastically that they can now grow enough food to export.
 
In 10-15 years, there will not be any Glaciers in Glacier National Park.
 
To ignore global climate change just because you do not happen to like the people who are warning you, well.....Hope your home is on very high stilts.
 
My problem with Gore is that he has the cause wrong.  Yes, man is contributing to the problem, but isn't the cause.  Planetary Precession is the cause.  The Earth's wobble is taking the Northern Hemisphere closer to the Sun. This process takes 26,000 years to complete a circuit.  Both the Mayans and the Hindu knew of this.  Hence the length of their "Ages".
In short, It's not us, and nothing we do will change the pattern.  We will have to adapt and adjust.
 
But, ignoring it as just an ivention of political opportunists is even more dangerous.  Some folks on the Gulf Coast are a great example of total denial.  "The Gulf isn't rising, the Landmass is sinking". Huh!!!?
 
  


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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2013 at 14:24
opuslola, I think you may find that the error was one of topography and not data. Admittedly those making the error shame facedly kept quiet obout their error. Now those great increase when adjustment are made in line with data may not actually show a wholesale reversal, but generally mundane fluctuation weather patterns are famous for.

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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2013 at 14:50
Originally posted by Ollios




Embarrassed, nothing can escape from your eyes Clap. However same mentality is still on. Polar bears keep stable the number of some minor carnivores which helps some other species
Yep, Ollios, the balance of nature, and I agree that may well be true in regards with the polar bears, even though there are no more than about twenty to twenty-two thousand living in the wild living over vast areas.

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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2013 at 22:37
My dear Red, you wrote these words; "Greenlands climate has changed so drastically that they can now grow enough food to export" LOL

Can you provide the source of this information, as well as the current population of Greenland? And just how would this "wonderful" information co-relate with the times of the Viking settlements?

Regards as always,

Ron (Go Saints Go!)


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 19-Nov-2013 at 13:07
The current population of Greenland is approx. 57,000, mostly Inuit.  I have no idea what you mean by "co-relate with times of Viking settlements".
Up until 8-10 years ago the agriculture in Greenland was subsistance level, and barely that.
 
This article is a year old, but there are other articles if you feel so inclined to google.
 
 

Tomatoes, peppers, strawberries in Greenland's Arctic valleys

Photo
Tue, Mar 26 2013

By http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=alistair.scrutton& - Alistair Scrutton

KANGERLUSSUAQ, Greenland (Reuters) - On the Arctic Circle, a chef is growing the kind of vegetables and herbs - potatoes, thyme, tomatoes, green peppers - more fitting for a suburban garden in a temperate zone than a land of Northern Lights, glaciers and musk oxen.

Some Inuit hunters are finding reindeer fatter than ever thanks to more grazing on this frozen tundra, and for some, there is no longer a need to trek hours to find wild herbs.

Welcome to climate change in Greenland, where locals say longer and warmer summers mean the country can grow the kind of crops unheard of years ago.

"Things are just growing quicker," said Kim Ernst, the Danish chef of Roklubben restaurant, nestled by a frozen lake near a former Cold War-era U.S. military base.

"Every year we try new things," said Ernst, who even managed to grow a handful of strawberries that he served to some surprised Scandinavian royals. "I first came here in 1999 and no-one would have dreamed of doing this. But now the summer days seem warmer, and longer."

It was minus 20 degrees Centigrade in March but the sun was out and the air was still, with an almost spring feel. Ernst showed his greenhouse and an outdoor winter garden which in a few months may sprout again.

Hundreds of miles south, some farmers now produce hay, and sheep farms have increased in size. Some supermarkets in the capital Nuuk sell locally grown vegetables during the summer.

Major commercial crop production is still in its infancy. But it is a sign of changes here that Greenland's government set up a commission this year to study how a changing climate may help farmers increase agricultural production and replace expensive imported foods.

Change is already underway. Potatoes grown commercially in southern Greenland reached over 100 metric tons in 2012, double that of 2008. Vegetable production in the region may double this year compared with 2012, according to government data.

Some politicians hope global warming will allow this country a quarter the size of the United States to reduce its dependency on former colonial master Denmark for much of its food as political parties push for full independence.

Greenland, which is self-governing aside from defense and security, depends on an annual grant from Denmark of around $600 million, or half the island's annual budget. But the thawing of its enormous ice sheets have seen a boost in mining and oil exploration, as well as an interest in agriculture.

"I expect a lot of development in farming sheep and agriculture due to global warming," said Prime Minister Kuupik Kleist, whose government set up the commission. "It may become an important supplement to our economy."

Locals love recounting how Erik the Red first arrived in the southern fjords here in the 10th century and labeled this ice-covered island "Greenland" to entice others to settle. There is evidence that the climate was warmer then, allowing Viking settlements to grow crops for five centuries before mysteriously dying out.

FROM COWS TO CROPS

The scale of this new agriculture is tiny. There are just a few dozen sheep farms in southern Greenland, where most of the impact of climate change can be seen. Cows may number less than a hundred. But with 57,000 mostly Inuit human inhabitants, the numbers to feed are also small.

"You need to put this into perspective. We used to be high Arctic and now we are more sub Arctic," Kenneth Hoegh, an agronomist and former senior government advisor. "But we are still Arctic."

The symbolism is enormous, however, highlighting a changing global climate that has seen temperatures in the Arctic increase by about twice the global average - about 0.8 degrees Celsius since pre-industrial times.

"There are now huge areas in southern Greenland where you can grow things," said Josephine Nymand, a scientist at the Greenland Institute of Natural Resources in Nuuk. "Potatoes have most benefited. Also, cabbage has been very successful."

Sten Erik Langstrup Pedersen, who runs an organic farm in a fjord near Nuuk, first grew potatoes in 1976. Now he can plant crops two weeks earlier in May and harvest three weeks later in October compared with more than a decade ago.

He grows 23 kinds of vegetables, compared with 15 a decade ago, including beans, peas, herbs and strawberries. He says he has sold some strawberries to top restaurants in Copenhagen.

But Pedersen is skeptical about how much it will catch on.

"Greenlanders are impatient. They see a seal and they immediately just want to hunt it. They can never wait for vegetables to grow."

There is still potential. Hoegh estimates Greenland could provide half its food needs from home-grown produce which would be competitive with more expensive Danish imports.

But global change is not all about benefits. While summers are warmer, there is less rain. Some experts say that Greenland could soon need irrigation works - ironic for a country of ice and lakes.

"We have had dry summers for the last few years." said Aqqalooraq Frederiksen, a senior agricultural consultant in south Greenland, who said a late spring last year hurt potato crops.

On the Arctic circle, a flash flood last summer from suspected glacier melt water - which some locals here blamed on warm weather - swept away the only bridge connecting Ernst's restaurant to the airport. It came right in the middle of the tourist season, and the restaurant lost thousands of dollars.

It was an ominous reminder that global warming will bring its problems. Still, for Pedersen and his fjord in Nuuk, the future looks good.

"The hotter, the better," Pedersen said. "For me."



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Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2013 at 12:27
Originally posted by yomud

Originally posted by Mountain Man

Thousands of species become extinct every year.  It's nature's way.

oh cmon nature's way or human way ?Ouch !!! your telling me one day all life on earth (including us ) will end ??


No.  Some species survive and adapt while others evolve into existence.

See any dinosaurs in your neighborhood?  No?  But here you are, and you weren't here back then. 

Life is a continuum, with species dying out every day and being replaced by others better suited to current conditions.

However, EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY DIES, including us.  No species is immortal, nor irreplacable, especially not homo sapiens.

And yes - eventually all life on Earth will die.  Everything is finite, including Life.  The only question is by what means. 


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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2013 at 17:28
Originally posted by Toltec

"polar bear are going to die"

but think of how many seals they've killed, there's blood on them paws.
LOL

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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2013 at 17:41
Originally posted by Mountain Man

See any dinosaurs in your neighborhood?  No?
  except  red's avatar no Big smile


Originally posted by Mountain Man

Life is a continuum, with species dying out every day and being replaced by others better suited to current conditions
  tell me more about "being replaced by others" ok for moment think bears are gone what will take it's place . we know earth does not produce new animals we what will take the empty place ? Shocked





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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 20-Nov-2013 at 17:45
as ollios told us we will have fewer water in middle east but northmens will have more this means every one will want to live in northland !!! in other means we will be .......ed  ! could we just avoid all this by declining population growth huh ? less child better life huh ?Smile


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 22-Nov-2013 at 09:48
Yomud, it is a fact that 97% of all species that inhabitated the earth have gone extinct.  However just a look around will tell you that not all life has been affected.
 
With as many species as we now have, this should tell you how diverse and abundant life has been on this rock. 


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 22-Nov-2013 at 09:59
Originally posted by yomud

as ollios told us we will have fewer water in middle east but northmens will have more this means every one will want to live in northland !!! in other means we will be .......ed  ! could we just avoid all this by declining population growth huh ? less child better life huh ?Smile
 
 
We could avoid much of this with a smaller global pop.  But that's not likely to happen voluntarily.  Not wishing to sound like a gloom and doomer, but being a realist as well as a naturalist, it could happen involuntarily.
We have painted ourselves into a corner.  With the pop. at it's present level, it wouldn't take but a climatic hiccup to send us over the edge.  We are barely able to feed ourselves now.  Even a minor disruption in crop production could be disastrous.
 
Something like the event in 1816, "The year without a summer" could trigger world wide famine.
 
 


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Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 24-Nov-2013 at 14:52
Originally posted by red clay

Originally posted by yomud

as ollios told us we will have fewer water in middle east but northmens will have more this means every one will want to live in northland !!! in other means we will be .......ed  ! could we just avoid all this by declining population growth huh ? less child better life huh ?Smile
 
 
We could avoid much of this with a smaller global pop.  But that's not likely to happen voluntarily.  Not wishing to sound like a gloom and doomer, but being a realist as well as a naturalist, it could happen involuntarily.
We have painted ourselves into a corner.  With the pop. at it's present level, it wouldn't take but a climatic hiccup to send us over the edge.  We are barely able to feed ourselves now.  Even a minor disruption in crop production could be disastrous.
 
Something like the event in 1816, "The year without a summer" could trigger world wide famine.
 
 
omg "Year Without a Summer " was really terrible it is the first time i hearing this ! ty red every day i learn alot of things from you




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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 07-Dec-2013 at 18:57
There has been Ice Ages and Little Ice Ages, maybe hundreds of times! Things like this are not "abnormal" but "Normal" for our planet.

Regards, Ron

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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 09:40
Originally posted by opuslola

There has been Ice Ages and Little Ice Ages, maybe hundreds of times! Things like this are not "abnormal" but "Normal" for our planet.

Regards, Ron
 
 
True, the last little ice age came after a period called the "Medieval Warming".  The climate was stable and unusually warm.  The population of Europe increased far beyond the ability to feed itself under normal growing conditions.  Along came the little ice age and bam.  This is believed to have set up the conditions for the Plague.
 
And one of those involuntary population reductions. 


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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 14:55
Originally posted by red clay

Originally posted by opuslola

There has been Ice Ages and Little Ice Ages, maybe hundreds of times! Things like this are not "abnormal" but "Normal" for our planet. Regards, Ron


 
 

True, the last little ice age came after a period called the "Medieval Warming".  The climate was stable and unusually warm.  The population of Europe increased far beyond the ability to feed itself under normal growing conditions.  Along came the little ice age and bam.  This is believed to have set up the conditions for the Plague.

 

And one of those involuntary population reductions. 


Yes like the Great Flu Pandemic of 1917-18!

Ron

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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2013 at 23:13
Originally posted by Ollios


Originally posted by Mountain Man

Paint them brown and send them here to Colorado.  Big smile


They will die so it is meanless but we can paint some of Colorado bears white and this seems polar bears still live Wink
Originally posted by yomud

i just heard in next 20 years all ice will melt so polar bear are going to die does any way we could save them ? we know they already eating each other damn Confused<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">
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<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;"></span>
<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">They can die in wild life but not in ZOO. </span>
Polar Bear Population:20-25.000
<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">Persian/Caucaus Leopard:1300</span>
<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">Asiatic Cheetah:100</span>
Polar bears are important but some animals are in much trouble. 
and don't worry, god doesn't let them go 
With global warming, West USA and Chinese coast will see much more hurricanes as Katrina
First step is making awarness.
 


UH? Ir'a been almost ten years and we are still free of damaging hurricanes! Ron, on the Mississippi Gulf Coast!

Oh! And yes Artic Ice accumulations are at a level that might well set a new record?
So our snow bears should be happy for another year or so!

Ron

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Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2014 at 06:24
Originally posted by red clay

I'm aware of this, I just don't believe it's man made, as one scientist proposed.  Global Precession is the wobble in the Earths orbit.  We have entered an age where the southern portion of the planet is starting to lean further from the sun, while the North is leaning closer to the sun.  It's been doing this for Thousands of years.  It takes 26,000 years to do a complete circuit.  Man has nothing to do with it.
Ahhh, but we older folks know different!
 
It's the BOMB, don't you see? The BOMB has disturbed earths natural axis, it's interfered with the weather and tides. It now takes longer for the laundry to dry on the line.
 
And the Great Powers don't want us to know about it.
 
"The sun comes up and the sun goes down.
Hands on the clock they just keep going around.
I just get up and its time to lay down.Life gets tee-jus don't it?
My shoes untied but I don't care.
I really ain't figuring on going anywhere.
 I just have to wash and comb my hair, and that's  just wasted effort.
The water in the well its getting lower and lower can't take a bath for six month's more.
But I've heard it said and its probably true, that to much bathing it'll weaken you.
I open the door and the flies swarm in.
I shut the door and I'm sweating again.
I move to fast and I crack my shin.
Its just one darn thing after another.
Old brown mule he must be sick.
Jabbed him in the rump with a stick.
He humped his back but he didn't kick.
Something cockeyed somewhere.
Mouse chewing on the pantry door.
Fool's been at it for a month or more.
When he gets through he sure going to be sore.
There ain't a dang thing in there.
The cows gone dry and the hens won't lay.
Fish quit biting last Saturday.
Troubles pile up day by day.
Now I'm getting dandruff.
Grief and misery, pains and woes, debts and taxes and so it goes.
Now it seems I'm getting a cold in the nose.
Life gets tasteless don't it?"
And it's all cause of the BOMB!
Thanks Hank, you make me feel a lot better.


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