Temujin The GREAT
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Topic: Temujin The GREAT
Posted By: Fula
Subject: Temujin The GREAT
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 08:25
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Was the founder and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khagan - Great Khan (emperor) of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire - Mongol Empire , which became the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_largest_empires - largest contiguous empire in history after his death.
His Empire makes Alexander's look like childs play lol
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 09:40
Though a great achievement it did split into pieces in the time of his grandchildren on a dispute as to who show succeed in the position as the ruler of the whole thing.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Fula
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 15:05
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lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him.
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 15:10
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Baal Melqart
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 16:50
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men.
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I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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Timidi mater non flet
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 17:12
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men. |
I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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I think that Tamerlane(Timur) in his lifetime conquered a larger landmass than Genghis Khan in his lifetime, even though not as much as the Mongols did as a whole. Also Tamerlane's Grandson founded the Mughal Empire, so his legacy lasted much longer too.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Fula
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men. |
I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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I think that Tamerlane(Timur) in his lifetime conquered a larger landmass than Genghis Khan in his lifetime, even though not as much as the Mongols did as a whole. Also Tamerlane's Grandson founded the Mughal Empire, so his legacy lasted much longer too.
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I disagree Temujin had a greater landmass than Timur and Temujins Legacy is Far Greater then Timur. He started what was to be the second largest Empire in the world. The British is number one only because of the "New World" territory. I dont see how its even close
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Posted By: Arab
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2011 at 18:43
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men. |
I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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He claimed to be grandson of Genghis. The Soviets exhumed his grave in 1941 and he was found to be a 5"8' (very tall for that time) Asiatic man with a broken hip.
He planned on conquering China but died of a fever I think on the way there.
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 13:22
Originally posted by Arab
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men. |
I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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He claimed to be grandson of Genghis. The Soviets exhumed his grave in 1941 and he was found to be a 5"8' (very tall for that time) Asiatic man with a broken hip.
He planned on conquering China but died of a fever I think on the way there. |
I think they were both red haired too.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 13:35
Originally posted by Fula
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Baal Melqart
Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising
Originally posted by Fula
lol yeah it split when he died...I think thats understandable. Either way he conquered much of the known world. Crazy how few people know of him. |
That's nothing to the lack of knowledge people have about Tamerlane, who could be classed as the greatest self made men. |
I myself don't know too much about Timur Leng. I know that he was born in Khorasan and was originally Asiatic, then he went to create the Timurid empire which extends from Iran to Afghanistan. Seems hardly the match of what Genghis Khan accomplished, unless I'm missing something?
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I think that Tamerlane(Timur) in his lifetime conquered a larger landmass than Genghis Khan in his lifetime, even though not as much as the Mongols did as a whole. Also Tamerlane's Grandson founded the Mughal Empire, so his legacy lasted much longer too.
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I disagree Temujin had a greater landmass than Timur and Temujins Legacy is Far Greater then Timur. He started what was to be the second largest Empire in the world. The British is number one only because of the "New World" territory. I dont see how its even close
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I'll let you decide. In the first map the darker pink is the lands Temujin conquered in his life time. The second is the lands under the control of Temur.
 
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Fula
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 14:15
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Good stuff. I still think Temujin was substantially bigger. The second map is zoomed in and only the green was his Empire. This is at his death...It even continued growing after he died
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Genghis_khan_empire_at_his_death.png">  |
Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 17:21
Originally posted by Fula
Good stuff. I still think Temujin was substantially bigger. The second map is zoomed in and only the green was his Empire. This is at his death...It even continued growing after he died |
Yes I know it is zoomed in somewhat, and I agree if you consider the extension later then that would be bigger. However I was comparing the two maps by the lakes common on both and using them to help with a comparison.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Arab
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 18:10
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Though he was ruthless (like many in his time), Temujin was able to keep what he conquered, he established government, created roads and kept the peace.
Timur on the other hand was more of a raider and marauder, he plundered many places such as India and the Near East (as you can see in the map), and was probably the more destructive of the two.
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Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 18:26
Originally posted by Arab
Though he was ruthless (like many in his time), Temujin was able to keep what he conquered, he established government, created roads and kept the peace. |
Temujin ran a better democracy than most countries do today.
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What a handsome figure of a dragon. No wonder I fall madly in love with the Alani Dragon now, the avatar, it's a gorgeous dragon picture.
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2011 at 19:25
For some reason i can't vote in polls, but Temujin deserves at least 4 stars
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