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Topic: Mary Rose
Posted By: Nick1986
Subject: Mary Rose
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2011 at 20:55

The precursor of the famous galleon was the Carrack, a floating fortress in use from the late Middle Ages until the 1600s. The best-known of these "great ships" was the Mary Rose, Henry VIII's flagship which sank in 1545 because she had too many cannons and not enough ballast

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 25-Oct-2011 at 21:38
For all his foibles..I love ole Hank. Other then Alfred who had a naval inclined mind as well..he really deserves the credit for what becomes Liz's navy.
 
So he gets a Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 26-Oct-2011 at 19:09
They're re-building the Mary Rose Museum at Portsmouth to fit the restored ship. It should be opening in late 2012

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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 27-Oct-2011 at 00:23
His child had drawn from scratch boat and it turned up and down in ocean waters.have seen this on national.Big smile


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 28-Oct-2011 at 19:17

Mary Rose contained a vast amount of Tudor artefacts, including the largest amount of longbows yet discovered. To shoot them required years of practise as these typically had a draw weight of 320N


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 29-Oct-2011 at 19:17

There were many "bollock daggers" aboard Mary Rose, so-called due to the handle's resemblance to an erect male phallus. These dirks were the utility knife of their time and were frequently carried by sailors before the adoption of the falchion-derived cutlass


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 30-Oct-2011 at 19:19

From the knives and bows, we move on to the latest artillery pieces. Henry's foundries used so much bronze there was a world shortage of tin

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 31-Oct-2011 at 19:03

A breech-loading cannon known as a hailshot, discovered by a Victorian diver. These were made of iron hoops welded together and were a type of early shotgun designed to kill massed enemies with a barrage of musket balls

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 01-Nov-2011 at 20:17

A breechloading swivel gun known as a "murderer." On the left is the removable breech


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 02-Nov-2011 at 19:08

Here's a closeup of some of the decoration on the cannons. I've always found early firearms more interesting than edged medieval weapons


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 03-Nov-2011 at 22:14

It's interesting to note most of Mary Rose's crew (like Henry himself) were still Catholics, despite Cromwell's efforts at creating a Protestant identity just a decade earlier. Many wooden rosaries were found on the gun decks where the sailors were berthed


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Nov-2011 at 20:00

For 20 years the ship has been sprayed with preservatives to remove the seawater penetrating the wood, strengthen the hull and prevent decay. This process is now nearly complete


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 20:39

The oldest mortuary sword was discovered aboard the Mary Rose. Previously it was thought these were a German, Italian or Scottish invention


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 19-Jul-2012 at 19:47
Mary Rose's armaments
http://www.maryrose.org/ship/armament1.htm%20 - http://www.maryrose.org/ship/armament1.htm

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 19:52
Virtual tour of the Mary Rose
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/tudors/launch_vt_mary_rose.shtml - http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/tudors/launch_vt_mary_rose.shtml


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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 22-Aug-2012 at 22:12
Excellent stuff.

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2012 at 02:48
Modern neutron techniques analyse Tudor firepower on the Mary Rose
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2012/modern-neutron-techniques-analyse-tudor-firepower-on-the-mary-rose - http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/10/2012/modern-neutron-techniques-analyse-tudor-firepower-on-the-mary-rose
 
 
Good update.


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'




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