Werewolves!
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Topic: Werewolves!
Posted By: Nick1986
Subject: Werewolves!
Date Posted: 09-Oct-2011 at 20:34
During the 18th century the French province of Gevaudan was terrorised by a mysterious beast. The royal huntsman shot dead a huge wolf whose stomach was discovered to be full of human remains. However, the attacks continued, making it likely the wolf scavenged the real beast's kills. Witnesses describe the beast as having reddish fur and a long tail. Was this a wolf-dog hybrid, or had another creature been released into the French countryside, like a lion or hyena? ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 09:23
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There have been several docs. recently regarding the "Beast of Gevaudan". The best evidence so far is for a Hyena.
------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 09:24
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Werewolves are lower class of creatures cause they have not "pure" blood and ancestry!Their masters,vampires,use them as serfs&slaves!This is movie screenplay analysis of course!Hollywood standard screenplay synopsis.  Underworld rules!
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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 16:27
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They are totally miss appreciated and not well understood. They deserve ya sympathy not your condemnation as they do no evil because of preconceived intent. It's the moon's fault. And as such, remember.. for 29 days a month they probably have you over for BBQ. Let that be a lesson for all in tolerance. ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Oct-2011 at 21:14
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7DTv2uBA7I[/TUBE] ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 01:51
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werewolf legends,here you are: http://www.mythicalrealm.com/legends/werewolf.html - http://www.mythicalrealm.com/legends/werewolf.html |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 08:09
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*Central Asian Legend; Dog head men- "itbarak" The legend of Oghuz Khan" mentions about "itbarak". They believed, these creatures were living northwest of Turkish land. They were black and they had dog heads. *another sources http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php?topic=4578.0;wap2 - http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php?topic=4578.0;wap2 ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 19:50
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The hunter who killed the Beast of Gevaudan is believed to have trained it. He claimed to have waited, deep in prayer, then shot the beast with a silver bullet. The question is: why? ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 11-Oct-2011 at 22:07
Perhaps he regretted the action he was about to take.it. in taking life. And took solace in prayer and dependence on forgiveness. Perhaps he was afraid of the King's justice and the wrath of the people upon whom whose hoax he had perpetrated. Perhaps he was praying for a steady hand and keen sight as he dispatched the beast and saved the day or gotten dinner (done that myself). Perhaps he really believed he was working as an agent of the grace of the church and aiding in the assistance of a soul in torment. It's all moot Nick ole son. My advice to him had I been there......... was focus.....breathe in ....bring the body of the target into the sight picture, center mass (adjust for final windage and elevation instinctively) and let it obscure all else.... exhale slowly and squeeze the trigger. For in the end... above all else... there's a time fer praying and a time fer shooting.
 ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2011 at 20:36
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What i meant was: why would he unleash the beast upon his own people? He must have been some sort of psychopath seeking personal glory at the cost of others' lives ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 12-Oct-2011 at 20:52
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psychopath? Cant even use looney tunes. Madman? Perhaps, whose to say. Personal verification and or aggrandizement...same. He, according to the sources, was already a reputable and well renowned hunter. Consequently I fall back on the options I elucidated above. ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Oct-2011 at 19:38
200 years earlier, a serial killer was active in the German province of Cologne. Peter Stumpp, a respectable farmer, killed and ate 18 people, including his own son. Under torture he claimed to have sold his soul to the Devil in return for the ability to transform into a wolf. In 1589 he was tortured to death on the wheel, beheaded and burned with his mistress and daughter ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2011 at 13:36
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Myths of Dog-Man, written by David Gordon White http://books.google.com/books?id=glmjo9UrP2YC&pg=PA134&dq=oghuz+khan+itbarak+dog&hl=tr&ei=EWacTojrHYm08QPvh7TwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false - http://books.google.com/books?id=glmjo9UrP2YC&pg=PA134&dq=oghuz+khan+itbarak+dog&hl=tr&ei=EWacTojrHYm08QPvh7TwBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false page:134 Itbarak ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 17-Oct-2011 at 19:05
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Where did the idea werewolves transformed at the full moon originate? It has almost pagan connotations ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2011 at 00:52
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Identification problems or behind stands description of something else:(Why wolf is inside transformation!?! http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/schizophrenia/symptoms-of-schizophrenia.html - http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/schizophrenia/symptoms-of-schizophrenia.html |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 18-Oct-2011 at 19:56
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The autumn full moon is known as a "Hunter's Moon" due to its brightness. Perhaps the reason werewolves transformed at the full moon was because this was the best time to hunt? ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 19-Oct-2011 at 13:50
| But wolf was part of one other story tale also! |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2012 at 08:25
Little Red Riding Hood, perhaps? ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Mountain Man
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2012 at 10:30
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Are we taking this seriously? Werewolves exist in order to track down and kill vampires...of course...before they had a chance to marry the Witches of Salem. Next?  ------------- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Posted By: Rocky
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2012 at 10:42
As a side note, has anyone else heard that in Europe, thousands of people were executed for being werewolves or witches? I heard that on a documentary years ago, but I cannot confirm how many people were executed. My guess is that the usual culprit was a neighbor, because it seems that if you told on someone for the crime of witchcraft or lycanthropy, you would received their land. Oh, here is the link I forgot to post.  http://historicmysteries.com/history-of-the-werewolf-legend
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2012 at 10:48
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Native Americans have the "Shape Shifters", which they take very seriously. There are instances where they have been reported to the tribal police.
------------- "Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces". Unknown. |
Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 25-Nov-2012 at 12:04
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Wouldn't it be better to report them to the local pound. ------------- Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out? http://historyplanet.wordpress.com - History Planet Website <br / |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 26-Nov-2012 at 09:22
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The Indians also have a type of vampire or ghoul known as a Wendigo. If you ever see one, you also become a Wendigo
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Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 26-Nov-2012 at 09:31
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One of the best western movies in recent years is about a wendigo, it's called Ravenous and well worth checking out. ------------- Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out? http://historyplanet.wordpress.com - History Planet Website <br / |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 30-Nov-2012 at 17:45
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among turkmens silver is Savior metal we believe it can stop curse save babys protect people from monsters and evil eye it said werewolves get hurt by silver ------------- yomud are free people |
Posted By: Rocky
Date Posted: 30-Nov-2012 at 18:42
I love that movie. I haven't seen it for a few years, but I will have to look it up. Of course Vampires are still reported today. http://abcnews.go.com/International/vampire-threat-terrorizes-serbian-village/story?id=17831327
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2012 at 07:37
Sounds similar to the silver bullet used to kill vampires ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 01-Dec-2012 at 12:52
lol that was funny :D this is a website can give u info about turkmen silver crafting www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listings/2012/turkmen-jewelry http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/turk/hd_turk.htm there must be a connection about legends :D ------------- yomud are free people |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 02-Dec-2012 at 09:14
Traditionally, silver from a church crucifix was believed to be a powerful protection from evil. This belief must have prechristian origins ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: yomud
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2012 at 16:12
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Traditionally, silver from a church crucifix was believed to be a powerful protection from evil. This belief must have prechristian origins [/QUOTE] first question is why silver ! :D there is alot of metals but people choses silver as protection why ? second does werewolves has legend origin or just made by hollywood u know we have very similar monster name itbarak and it said live northwest of oghuz territory which means somewhere in russia or ukrain (oghuz territory is north of khazarian sea ) and i just hear ( with no prov or source)origin of dracula and vampires legend are somewhere in romania and eastern europe ------------- yomud are free people |
Posted By: Toltec
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2012 at 17:12
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Silver is a traditional anti-septic, and it's true it does have anti-septic qualities and is still used for this in modern medicine. ------------- Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out? http://historyplanet.wordpress.com - History Planet Website <br / |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 06-Dec-2012 at 08:27
first question is why silver ! :D there is alot of metals but people choses silver as protection why ? second does werewolves has legend origin or just made by hollywood u know we have very similar monster name itbarak and it said live northwest of oghuz territory which means somewhere in russia or ukrain (oghuz territory is north of khazarian sea ) and i just hear ( with no prov or source)origin of dracula and vampires legend are somewhere in romania and eastern europe [/QUOTE] Stories of werewolves and vampires predate Hollywood: it was thought the devil granted witches the ability to transform into animals ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 06-Dec-2012 at 17:01
Possibly. But their sight is exceptional...even during periods of extended darkness...ala the arctic. If the origination is with a hunter's moon it would have benefited the hunter not the werewolf. Tradition relays their aggressive, hunting styles and tactics in approach and pack reliance. It also relays their intelligence, and abilities to camo, use cover and concealment and, or exist and operate in varied terrains and climatic conditions. Consequently, The man who becomes the wolf is not something to be trifled with. Your best bet at countering them is a Navajo or Apache Shaman's guidance. Otoh. a 12 gauge with 00 buck and backed with silver loaded slugs is a quality option. And btw.....don't anyone urinate in your pants while engaging, it's a distraction. You got time for that after the meanie is dead on the ground. Amen. ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |