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Topic: The Hellenic quote of the week.
Posted By: Spartakus
Subject: The Hellenic quote of the week.
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2005 at 17:17

I've decided to open a weekly topic concerning quotes of the Hellenic philosophy.If there is a problem with that,then you can tell me and i will stop posting.Hope not!

The good things you learn them with hard work.Τhe disgraceful ones without hard work, automatically.
Δημόκριτος



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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)



Replies:
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 03:56

Marry or marry not, in the end you will regret it

Socrates



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The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics

Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 07:34


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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2005 at 08:29
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

Plato


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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2005 at 10:31

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.

Socrates



Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 20-Apr-2005 at 16:04
Where wisdom is needed,power has small utility.
Ευριπίδης


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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 21-Apr-2005 at 10:14

For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them.

Aristoteles



Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 24-Apr-2005 at 16:58
To be at once exceedingly wealthy and good is impossible.
--Plato

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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2005 at 12:26

"By all means marry. If you get a good wife you will become happy, and if you get a bad one you will become a philosopher."
Socrates



Posted By: iskenderani
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2005 at 13:36

" since you know as well as we do that right,is only in question between equals in power "

Athenians , from the Melian dialogue.

Isk.



Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 03-May-2005 at 14:47
Never existed for men greater power than virtue.
Ευριπίδης


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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 06-May-2005 at 07:44

"Count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self. "

Aristotle



Posted By: Molossos
Date Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:27

"I am an eagle because of you; for how cannot I be, since I fly high by your weapons as if I have fast wings".

King Pyrrhus of Epirus, responding to his people who called him an eagle.



Posted By: Komnenos
Date Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:29
The Ball is round and every game last 90 minutes!
Rehacles

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Posted By: Molossos
Date Posted: 08-May-2005 at 13:35


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 09-May-2005 at 15:03


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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 14-May-2005 at 12:26
The delicate mind gives decency in every act.
Plutarch


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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 18-May-2005 at 21:40

DIONYSUS

    "For mercy's sake, not till I'm going to vomit."

The Frogs by Aristophanes



Posted By: strategos
Date Posted: 18-May-2005 at 22:43
The Spartans do not enquire how many the enemy are but where they are. Agis, II 42;7 BC

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http://theforgotten.org/intro.html


Posted By: strategos
Date Posted: 18-May-2005 at 22:45

What do you think of this, I found it..

Kai sy, teknon?
Julius Caesar's last words actually Greek, not Latin, meaning "You too, child?". β€œEt tu, Brute?" in translation: "You too, Brutus?" appeared in William Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar

  • Και συ τΡκνον? (Kai su, teknon?) (Gr., "Even you, my child?" – from Suetonius)


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http://theforgotten.org/intro.html


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 18-May-2005 at 22:56

I love this pic!! where did you find this one?

It is clear, then, that wisdom is knowledge having to do with certain principles and causes. But now, since it is this knowledge that we are seeking, we must consider the following point: of what kind of principles and of what kind of causes is wisdom the knowledge?
Aristotle, 340


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 07:10
In the Internet.

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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:37
ancient Greek quote from unknown author

"Words and hearts should be handled with care for words when spoken and hearts when broken are the hardest things to repair."

Anonymous quotes

This is so true!!


I will have to pull out some of my sources and post them. I love Greek literature!!!


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 21-May-2005 at 16:36

There is nothing impossible to him who will try.

Alexander the Great



Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 23-May-2005 at 19:42
"If ...... goes to war he will destroy a great empire."

who was this said to and by whom????



Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 06:06

Originally posted by eaglecap

"If ...... goes to war he will destroy a great empire."

who was this said to and by whom????

The Oracle of Delphi said that to the King Kroesus of Lydia. He went to war with the Persians and he destroyed a great empire, his... own!



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The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics

Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin


Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 07:24
Ἀποδός, ὦ κατάρατε, τά πορθμεῖα! (Pay the ferry-fee, you bastard!)
Charon to Menippos
Οὐκ ἂν λάβοις παρά τοῦ μή ἒχοντος (You will receive nothing from someone that has nothing)
Menippos to Charon


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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: TheodoreFelix
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 16:52

 "I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again."

 -Socrates

Sums up my mentality right there.

 

Actually you guys should actually make this sort of a weekly thing where a quote is proposed an dthen voted. Then for the rest of the week it becomes it, as the week is going on choose a different quote. Just my idea ofcourse.

 



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Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 28-May-2005 at 17:00
Nuh,takes too much time.....

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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 01:20
Listen, you country bumpkins, you have swag bellied yahoos, we know how to tell many lies that pass for truth and we know, when we wish to tell the truth itself. So spoke Zesus'daughters, master of woodcraft.
Theogony

"Greek People" by Robert Kebric page 28

hmmm they had Yahoo back then-


Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 07:39
Originally posted by eaglecap

Listen, you country bumpkins, you have swag bellied yahoos, we know how to tell many lies that pass for truth and we know, when we wish to tell the truth itself. So spoke Zesus'daughters, master of woodcraft.
Theogony

"Greek People" by Robert Kebric page 28

hmmm they had Yahoo back then-


LOL - where the bleeding hell did you dig that up from?
(I know where - it was a rhetorical question)


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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 14:35
Originally posted by Menippos

Originally posted by eaglecap

Listen, you country bumpkins, you have swag bellied
yahoos, we know how to tell many lies that pass for truth and we know,
when we wish to tell the truth itself. So spoke Zesus'daughters, master
of woodcraft.
Theogony

"Greek People" by Robert Kebric page 28

hmmm they had Yahoo back then-


LOL - where the bleeding hell did you dig that up from?
(I know where - it was a rhetorical question)



The source is above! I took it out of one of my many books on Greek history.
I have another good one but I will post it later- same source.


Posted By: Degredado
Date Posted: 29-May-2005 at 16:41

"An orator had given a horrendously bad performance and Demonax advised him to practice and rehearse. The orator replied, 'But I'm always speaking my material over to myself.' Demonax said, 'Well it's no wonder you speak as you do, then, since you have such a stupid audience.'"

Okay, here's a little guessing game: who wrote this?



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Vou votar nas putas. Estou farto de votar nos filhos delas


Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 31-May-2005 at 14:18
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."

Plato



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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 31-May-2005 at 15:56
"Carthage must be destroyed"
         &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;    Cicero



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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 31-May-2005 at 20:39
"Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here obedient to their words we lie."

Thermopylae for the Spartans - unknown author



Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 04:04
"Wisdom begins in wonder."

Socrates


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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 18:57
For we did not become dwellers in this land by driving others out of it, nor by finding it uninhabited, nor by coming together here a motley horde composed of many races; but we are of a lineage so noble and so pure that throughout our history we have continued in possession of the very land which gave us birth, since we are sprung from its very soil.

Isocrates, Panegyricus

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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 03-Jun-2005 at 00:06
....O Troy, once
so huge over all Asia in the drawn wind of pride, your very name of glory shall be stripped away. They are burning you and us they drag forth form our land enslaved. Oh gods! Do I call upon those gods for help? I cried to them before now and they would not hear. Come then, hurl ourselves into the pyre. Best now to die in the flaming ruins of our fathers'house.
Hector
source: "Greek people" by Robert Kebric


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 05-Jun-2005 at 22:54
What a burden off my neck!
What a joy to escape marriage!
Another time Lycambes, father in law almost.
I can't bring you to your knees.
Honor presupposes a sense of shame,
And that you haven't got.

Archilochus

sounds a wee bit bitter- }


Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 06-Jun-2005 at 03:09
Originally posted by Menippos

"Carthage must be destroyed"
         & ;nbs p;        &nbs p;&nbs p;       &nbs p; &nbs p;      &nbs p;  &nbs p;    Cicero


I myself believe it was more Cato who said it in the end f every trial.


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Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 06-Jun-2005 at 04:29
Originally posted by rider


I myself believe it was more Cato who said it in the end f every trial.

Yes, you are right!
It was Cato.
I was thinking of something else when I wrote this...

Aitδh!!!


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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 06-Jun-2005 at 23:36
"Happiness depends upon ourselves."
-- Aristotle (384-322 BC)


Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 04:12
Happiness is a cigar called "Hamlet".

(ad on British TV)


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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 07:11

It's Hellenic quotes....



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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 07:24
I couldn't resist the temptation...

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CARRY NOTHING


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 14:50
happiness in also found in a good micro brew.

One of my favorite from the cute little town of Walla Walla, Washington.
Mill Creek pub and Grill


Moose drool from Montana is still my favorite!!



Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 23:53
Remember, no human condition is ever permanent: then you will not be overjoyed in good fortune, not too sorrowful in misfortune.

Socrates


Posted By: GENERAL PARMENION
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2005 at 05:22
"By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." - Socrates


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"There is no doubt, that Macedonians were Greeks."
(Robin Lane Fox "Historian-Author" In Interview with newspaper TO BHMA)



Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2005 at 06:47
"Γνωθεις εαυτον"  Know thyself

Socrates


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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2005 at 11:52
Originally posted by GENERAL PARMENION

<SPAN =>"By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." - Socrates </SPAN>


This is a good one!!

"We are what we repeatly do, excellence then, is not an act, but a habit."

Aristotle





Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 13:07
I better rivive this before it disapears forever!!

test who said this??

"A heart that loves is always young."

"Gray hair is a sign of age, not wisdom."

"No need to teach an eagle to fly."

"Eagles, I love eagles!!

Now my user name is named after the Eaglecap Wilderness area in the Wallowa-Whitman Nation Forest. 300,000 acres of roadless wilderness set aside as wilderness.


Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 16:12
I have no idea who said these, but after reading:

"Gray hair is a sign of age, not wisdom."

This one came to mind:
(for all our grey hair members that are feeling a bit 'down')

"Μαλλι βαμβακι, ψωλη φαρμακι"



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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 12-Jun-2005 at 16:17
Eleos...

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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 13:24
Aristotle
"Pleasure in the job put perfection in the work."


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2005 at 13:57
When men speak ill of thee, live so as nobody may believe
them.
--Plato


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 22-Jun-2005 at 12:58
Who was in that said that you can only step in a River once. I was trying to find the quote


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 22-Jun-2005 at 14:14
Sry,i cannot remember that one.Are you sure he was a Hellen?

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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 22-Jun-2005 at 14:56
yes but I cannot recall who it was and the exact quote


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2005 at 08:27

Beware of the Hellens and those who carry disifenctant.....

 



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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: eaglecap
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by Spartakus

Beware of the Hellens and those who carry disifenctant.....








Posted By: Phallanx
Date Posted: 23-Jun-2005 at 20:59

"But if cattle or lions had hands, so as to paint with their hands and produce works of art as men do, they would paint their gods and give them bodies in form like their own, horses like horses, cattle like cattle."

Xenophanes



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To the gods we mortals are all ignorant.Those old traditions from our ancestors, the ones we've had as long as time itself, no argument will ever overthrow, in spite of subtleties sharp minds invent.


Posted By: mausefalle
Date Posted: 25-Jun-2005 at 21:02
"When I look upon seamen, men of science and philosophers, man is the wisest of all beings; when I look upon priests and prophets nothing is as contemptible as man."

"Most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad."

"The foundation of every state is the education of its youth."

"The mob is the mother of tyrants"

"I am called a dog because I fawn on those who give me anything, I yelp at those who refuse, and I set my teeth in rascals"

"Calumny is only the noise of madmen."


--Diogenes of Sinope (the Cynic), 412-323 BC


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 27-Jun-2005 at 07:14

"I came here saven and I will leave with a beard"

A Hellen pensioner waiting to get his pension.

*edited by Yiannis, so that it makes sense grammaticaly*



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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)


Posted By: Perseas
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 19:52

The god of war hates those who hesitate

Euripedes



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A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.


Posted By: Spartakus
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2005 at 04:31
Originally posted by Spartakus

"I came here saven and I will leave with a beard"

A Hellen pensioner waiting to get his pension.

*edited by Yiannis, so that it makes sense grammaticaly*



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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)



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