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Forum Name: Ancient Mesopotamia, Near East and Greater Iran
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Topic: hanging gardens of babylon?
Posted By: Guests
Subject: hanging gardens of babylon?
Date Posted: 17-Apr-2005 at 17:10
hanging gardens of babylon can someone ?







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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 00:32
Can Someone (<- do this) ?


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 02:37
guyy ur cracked....i just asked a simple question... someone got any pics..drawings...

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 02:37
Can someone comprehend...

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Posted By: TheOrcRemix
Date Posted: 18-Apr-2005 at 22:48
nope

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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 22-Apr-2005 at 19:58
you didn't ask a question... you said "hanging gardens babylon, can some one" ... anyway, here you go:


you can find more pictures http://images.google.ca/imagesq=hanging%20garden&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&sa=N&tab=wi">here
you can find more articles http://www.google.ca/search?q=hanging+garden&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&sa=N&tab=iw">here


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Posted By: Miller
Date Posted: 23-Apr-2005 at 03:13
 

Just search the web you find many pictures, but there is no archeological proof that they ever existed. The picture are mostly based on old stories and contemporary imaginations. If they were as grad as they were suppose to be there should have been something left of them

 

 



Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 27-Apr-2005 at 03:45
yes there is no proof it was ever anything but a legend, I say wait to invest belief in it until we have something other than stories.

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Posted By: AssyrianMan7
Date Posted: 03-May-2005 at 22:45

 

 

 

enjoy



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Posted By: ramin
Date Posted: 04-May-2005 at 02:25
Originally posted by AssyrianMan7

enjoy
enjoy what? it's not like you giving him the real garden, they're just photos


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Posted By: AssyrianMan7
Date Posted: 04-May-2005 at 14:51
well he did ask for photos..didn't he?

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Posted By: Togodumnus
Date Posted: 18-Jul-2005 at 14:26
I believe the Gardenswere actually the huge ziggarut that was the center of the Babylonian religion.(Tower of Baal?)And with a few embellishments by some sensationalist historians became the Hanging Gardens.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2005 at 16:32
Why couldn't it be a hanging garden?

The Babylonians were very preficient in creating Ziggurats.  All one would have to do is  place soil  on the different "steps",  plant  things, and then carry water up to water by some means (handpiped wasn't invented until Archimedes).  This could have included slave work, or since the Ziggurats were semi "spirals", could have used gravity itself to carry the water slowly down.  There are many ways that it makes sense and seems possible to build.

The Ancients also very well documented this wonder; I see no reason for so many people documenting it if it was not indeed real.


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Posted By: Togodumnus
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2005 at 12:53
Beautiful pics AssyrianMan7!If I could travel to an ancient culture if would be to the Fertile Cresent area for sure!And then aff to the Land of the Pharoahs!

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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 30-Jul-2005 at 14:58
The ancient city of Babylon, under King Nebuchadnezzar II, must have been a wonder to the traveller's eyes. "In addition to its size," wrote Herodotus, a historian in 450 BC, "Babylon surpasses in splendour any city in the known world." Herodotus claimed the outer walls were 56 miles in length, 80 feet thick and 320 feet high. Wide enough, he said, to allow a four-horse chariot to turn. The inner walls were "not so thick as the first, but hardly less strong

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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 30-Jul-2005 at 15:00
Inside the walls were fortresses and temples containing immense statues of solid gold. Rising above the city was the famous Tower of Babel, a temple to the god Marduk, that seemed to reach to the heavens. While archaeological examination has disputed some of Herodotus's claims (the outer walls seem to be only 10 miles long and not nearly as high) his narrative does give us a sense of how awesome the features of the city appeared to those that visited it. Interestingly enough, though, one of the city's most spectacular sites is not even mentioned by Herodotus: The Hanging Gardens of Babylon, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

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Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 30-Jul-2005 at 15:20
On Assyrians pictures, one gets influence from the other or from the same source. They dont seem to be from the same artist. Interesting on the top picture in the lower left-hand side, the statue of the lion is at a persons throat.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Sep-2005 at 21:43

Originally posted by cattus

On Assyrians pictures, one gets influence from the other or from the same source. They dont seem to be from the same artist. Interesting on the top picture in the lower left-hand side, the statue of the lion is at a persons throat.

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The Lion of Babylon, large and splendidly carved in basalt, reminds us again that the lion was the symbol of the goddess Ishtar. In the sculpture, the lion's back has marks indicating that it was meant for a precious saddle upon which the goddess Ishtar would stand.

 

for more info about Babylon:

  http://www.atlastours.net/iraq/babylon.html - http://www.atlastours.net/iraq/babylon.html



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25-May-2007 at 23:21
 thank you  for those wise words there are fool that are wise , peace imam ali

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Posted By: MarcoPolo
Date Posted: 05-Jul-2007 at 17:02
whats become of the site or supposed site of the hanging gardens?  is there any remnant or indication it ever existed?


Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 13-Jul-2007 at 17:27
As Napoleon said "what is history but a fable which has been agreed upon?" and that is how we must proceed. All of the collective legends about Babylon give us one semi-solid piece of evidence- that there was some large structure of great symbolistic significance to the Babylonians. From that piece of information alone, it would seem to indicate that there must be something there. If it was indeed a Ziggurat, it may have not survived the test of time - once the outer coating had gone, the mud packing inside could easily have collapsed. It was only the bricks and the packed mud that kept the thing together. We've just got to assume that there's something there, MarcoPolo- the ruins are extensive and so there's much more digging to be done. The problem with the archeology, though is that since many mesopotamian buildings are made of mud, they do not survive history and collapose into a tell which itself can simply become buried so deep that there's no point in excavating it. Excavation can be costly and if the slightest part of the sounding (examination trenches which are dug into a tell to examine the layers like a cake) goes wrong, it can be ruined. Most of mesopotamian archeology is simply speculation with highly advanced archeology - the unforgiving landscape makes archeology hard and highly technical, and the sheer age means that much evidence is gone for ever. We've just got to proceed on guesswork and whatever the archeologists can find for us. Whatever the case, we can't deny that there was something big and zigguratesque in Babylon- with that amount of evidence, the "fable" must have some truth behind it!

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