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GeoFact? or Artifact?

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Topic: GeoFact? or Artifact?
Posted By: red clay
Subject: GeoFact? or Artifact?
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 13:24
 
On a forum dealing with NA artifacts, some of the folks there have been critizing some of my artifacts as Geofacts.  I'm dealing with a culture of exceptional age.  Many of the artifacts I've found have been severely acted upon by weather and water.  I have been told that water can't do that much damage to stone. Confused  I can only counter with, Oh Yeah. Take a look.
 
 
This was found in a stream approx. 1.5 miles from my home.  I even left some of the algae on it.
 
Fossil/Geofact right?
 
 
 
Wrong, An arrowhead partially finished, still attached to the core.  Seen from 3 ft up on a stream bank, thru 8-10 inches of moving water, yeah, I'm that good.Big smile
 
However, if you look carefully you see that the rock used was fossil bearing.
 
 


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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 14:03
So this was head of,arrow or spear,once?Calcification from water make it smooth as glass. 


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 15:27
Originally posted by medenaywe

So this was head of,arrow or spear,once?Calcification from water make it smooth as glass. 
 
 
It would have been if the person who was making it had finished it.  The core he was working from is still attached.
 
I don't think calcification is evident.  The first pic is how it was found in the stream.  The water action wore that side down to it's original fossil appearence.  This is in quartz btw, so it already starts with a glassy appearence.
 
The 2nd pic is the side that was down in the mud, somewhat protected.


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 15:50
Ancient name for body,from Flint stone(spark?) answer.Is it possible this one was used for first fire spark?


Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 17:28
 No, fire kits come in a variety of types but this isn't related to that.  I do have a couple flints used for that however. 

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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: TheAlaniDragonRising
Date Posted: 09-Jun-2011 at 20:42
Originally posted by red clay


 
 
 
Wrong, An arrowhead partially finished, still attached to the core.  Seen from 3 ft up on a stream bank, thru 8-10 inches of moving water, yeah, I'm that good.Big smile
 
However, if you look carefully you see that the rock used was fossil bearing.
 
 

Is that a fault I can see running through the stone? In the picture is that sideways on as I believe?


I found this really good collection for you make a comparison with:


http://www.relicshack.com/TimelineZoom.aspx - http://www.relicshack.com/TimelineZoom.aspx


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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 10-Jun-2011 at 00:57
Actually it's the interior structure of the fossil.  Thanks for the link.  Most of those are from the midwest.
 
I'll post some pics of points that I've found. All but a few aren't whole,  This area has been farmed for 300 years.  It's also been heavily collected over the last one hundred.  That plus the age of the points make a whole point that hasn;t been badly weathered a rare find.
 
 
 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.



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