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Topic: Civil War/Old West slang
Posted By: Nick1986
Subject: Civil War/Old West slang
Date Posted: 19-May-2011 at 10:10
The type of things old-timers like Gabby Hayes and Denver Pyle said in the movies were, at one time, in widespread use in the Old West. Here are a few useful phrases should you ever take a trip to Westworld

"Dagnabbit", "Consarn it", "Dadburnit": Euphemisms for Godammit
"Greybacks:" Confederate soldiers or lice
"Band-box soldiers:" The regular army (in their white gaiters, polished brass and blackened boots)
"Dogrobber:" Sutler
"Brain tablet:" Cigarette (cowboys believed smoking increased their intelligence)
"Crusher," "Flatfoot": Policeman
"Hooker": Prostitute (after General Hooker, a known womaniser)
"Limey": Englishman (the Royal Navy gave each sailor lime juice to prevent scurvy)
"Dutchman": Foreigner (usually a German)
"Gallows-fruit": The rotting corpses of hanged criminals
"Lead poisoning": Death by gunshot

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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 19-May-2011 at 10:43
Slang can be a study all it's own.  The vernacular changes much faster and more dramatically than formal languge.  It's almost a record of changes within a relatively small anount of time.
 
                              
                               George F Hayes, aka "Gabby"
But Ol Gabby would have said "Diddly Dadburn it".  Big smile


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 19-May-2011 at 10:48
Slang can also become formalised as a language itself.  Nick, try looking up "Jive talking".

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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 21-May-2011 at 09:53
Fit to be tied - angry
Sheet iron - Army biscuits
Scaffold poles - French fries
Pard - Friend
Bully - Terrific
Arkansas toothpick - Bowie knife
Chicken guts - Officer's gold braid
Sardine boxes - Epaulettes
Grit - Courage
Contraband - Escaped slave
Old Horse - Salted beef

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Posted By: red clay
Date Posted: 21-May-2011 at 11:33
 Cab Calloway's Jive Dictionary-
 
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/09/25/are-you-hep-to-the-jive-the-cab-calloway-hepster-dictionary/ - http://artofmanliness.com/2008/09/25/are-you-hep-to-the-jive-the-cab-calloway-hepster-dictionary/
 
 
 


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"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 30-May-2011 at 20:20
Interesting link Red. I may be wrong, but i'm sure accordions were referred to as squeeze boxes in a Sherlock Holmes story

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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 31-May-2011 at 14:31
I actually seem to remember Gabby Hayes actually say "dag nabbit!"

"thanks for the memories" (Bob Hope!)

Hard-Tac(k)! Ration bisquits!

W. C. Fields could not say "God-damn" in his movies so he said instead, "Godfrey Daniels!" LOL



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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 31-May-2011 at 14:39
Squaw - Indian woman (from an obscene Native word for her reproductive organs)
Duckslicker - Oilskin coat
Here's your mule - Taunt intended to insult the cavalry
Wooden overcoat - Coffin
Yellow - Cowardly
Give him Jesse - To beat someone up
Copperhead - A Northerner who supports the south, a traitor
Buttermilk rangers - Cavalry troopers (because they supposedly pillaged civilian homesteads)
Floating coffin - Ironclad warship

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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 31-May-2011 at 14:52
Here is one that is rare;

A "Galvanized Yankee!"

I will give one Confederate dollar to the first person who can answer the above?



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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 31-May-2011 at 14:54
Now without looking, if one of you found this site;

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mscivilw/rowland/jdrowland.htm

Then you found one of my relatives!

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 31-May-2011 at 19:59
Durn tootin' - Absolutly
Muleskinner - Sutler
Firewater - Whisky
Dead men - Empty bottles or bullets
Street Arab - Homeless orphan known for thievery
Wide Awakes - Republican activists who participated in torchlit processions
Jackrolling - Getting a man drunk then robbing him
Pepperbox - Four-barreled Sharps pocket pistol
Goober peas - Peanuts

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 01-Jun-2011 at 19:29
Originally posted by opuslola

Here is one that is rare;

A "Galvanized Yankee!"

I will give one Confederate dollar to the first person who can answer the above?


I know what it is but will give someone else the chance to answer

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 02-Jun-2011 at 19:32
Greenbacks - US dollars
Necktie party - Public hanging
Texas tuxedo - Denim shirt and pants
Stirabout - A type of porridge made from army biscuits and water
Shitkickers - Boots worn by farmers (who would walk through cow dung)
Wetback - Highly offensive term for a Mexican (because immigrants swam across the Rio Grande)
Bread basket - Stomach
Skedaddle - Run away

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2011 at 19:38
Chitlins - Deep fried pig guts popular in the south before KFC was invented
Mighty - very
Bite the bullet - endure (soldiers would sometimes bite into lead bullets when undergoing amputation)
Jackanape - rogue
Ornery - Mean, cantankerous, evil-smelling
Lucifers - matches
Road agent - robber
Yellow dog - staff officer

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 09-Jul-2011 at 20:18
http://www.youtube.com//svQOQ2DIDEU - It's chitlin' time!

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Jul-2011 at 20:44
Ron, you owe me a Confederate dollar. A galvanised Yankee is a Southerner who fights for the north (usually a prisoner who agrees to change sides)

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Jul-2011 at 20:29
Ace - The best
Seeing the elephant - Going into battle
French leave - Desertion, running away
Old soak - Drunkard
Deadbeat - Bum
Chuck-wagon - Mobile kitchen
Ho-down - Party
Pow-wow - Meeting (originally of Indians)
Dickens - Devil

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2011 at 19:27
High Lonesome - Drunk
Mullet-head - Stupid
Big Fifty - .50 Sharps cartridge
Caboose - Jail
Chiseller - Swindler
Goner - Dead
Bender - Drunk

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2011 at 21:52
Headcheese - A meat jelly made from the head and feet of pigs
Fresh Fish - New recruit
Sand - Courage
Horse Sense - Good judgement
Prairie Oysters - Deep fried bovine balls
Boneyard - Cemetery

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 14:23
Tennessee Quickstep - Bowel movement
Dude - City boy
Quack - Fraudster impersonating a doctor or healer
Spick - Mexican (because they couldn't "spick engleesh")
Beef - Kill
Fork out - Pay
Pig Sticker - Bayonet

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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 10-Aug-2011 at 19:22
Tennessee Quickstep - Bowel movement 
 
 
Never ceased... to my chagrin, as a necessity. Either half way through a 25 mile forced, dismounted road march, a 60 mile movement in a Tank or APC (20 minutes after we had started), or after two hours in a helo while conducting Scout/Reconn ops.
 
This is the life of a Trooper.


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 30-Aug-2011 at 19:46
Eating irons - Knife and fork
Paddy - Irishman
Bunko - Lies
Flannel mouth - Smooth talker
Whole caboodle - Everything
Dry gulch - Ambush



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Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 31-Aug-2011 at 04:38
To conduct a 'dry gulch' preferably of the 'L' shaped variety is an op preferred yet rarely entirely successful.
 
To be in ie. a recipient of a  'dry gulch'...sucks and requires a stout heart and immediate implementation of the battle drills required to overcome it. These vary as to types of ambushes and one's position within the element......
 
but always always.....
 
1. report contact
2. assume a position to provide cover and concealment if possible
 
AND
 
3. Return fire.
 
Hopefully this tidbit will never prove necessary but ...now ya know.


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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

S. T. Friedman


Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true'



Posted By: marinerman
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2012 at 14:47
An Arkansas toothpick in not a Bowie Knife. It's a big knife in the shape of a dagger with equal sides. A Bowie knife (created by James Black who also created the Arkansas Toothpick) was created to give the knife a heavy topside for slashing like a cleaver. The designs are totally different. Just helping out. 


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2012 at 19:27

I've also seen single-edged Bowie knives stamped with the words "Arkansas Toothpick." The double-edged blade you posted looks very similar to a scalping knife i own, only with a leather wrapped handle and no guard

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Posted By: Sidney
Date Posted: 12-Feb-2012 at 21:19
A bit off topic, but slang related;

My great grandpa was always known in the family as 'Frenchy Joe'. An uncle told us it was because he had a cleft palate and couldn't speak properly (ie sounded foreign).
But I read "Memoirs of an Eighteenth Century Footman" by John Macdonald, and the author is nicknamed in the early 1760s 'French Macdonald' because he was a bit of a babe magnet.
Now my great grandpa is also remembered for having a few extra marital affairs, so it seems his nick name was for a similar reason. Anyone else heard of this slang term?


Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 17:02
Originally posted by Nick1986

Ron, you owe me a Confederate dollar. A galvanised Yankee is a Southerner who fights for the north (usually a prisoner who agrees to change sides)
 
I have always liked the slang term "galvanized Yankee".  The term came from galvanized metal (a very thin coat of blue coloring that could easily be scratched off a metal object).
 
Galvanized Yankees remained culturally southeren, had mixed motivations, varying degrees of devotion and were usually distrusted by federal commanders.  Some unionist regiments fought with great distinction as either main force regiments (1st TN infantry) or as counter insurgency troops (1st Arkansas cavalry).
 
Many other galvanized yankee regiments, however, did not have a good reputation.  Mountain recruits could be more interested in pursuing local feuds while wearing partial blue uniforms than in fighting rebels. Some regiments were formed with alot of conditions (90 day TN union regiments, garrisson of home counties only, no active combat), some were disbanded after they turned into bandits (1st Georgia Infantry), some were deemed unfit for line combat, later declared unfit for even garrisson duty, and deteriorated into a clan based militia (6 TN Cavalry). 


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 19:25
What happened if a "galvanised Yankee" was captured by the rebels? Would he be executed as a traitor? It would also be interesting to find out how they were treated after the war: how many were murdered or forced to leave by vengeful neighbors?

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Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 19:49
Originally posted by Nick1986

What happened if a "galvanised Yankee" was captured by the rebels? Would he be executed as a traitor? 
'It depends on which rebels caught him:
 
CSA mainforce commanders  had threatned to execute galvanized Yankees captured from the 1st Alabama (regiment had an acceptable reputation).  That order was later retracted after the Union threatned retaliation with confederate POWS from union states.  
  
CSA mainforce commanders did execute 40 galvanized Yankees with out federal retaliation because the men had deserted from confederate regiments and then joined what was promised to  be a "garisson only" union regiment.  But.... the promise was broken and they found themselves on the front line.
 
On another occasion, scores of galvanized yankees from a TN garrisson regiment were massacared at Fort Pillow, TN by mainforce Confederate units on a raid.   The were many reasons for the massacare (union surrender delays resulting in avoidable CSA casualties, assaulting force included CSA TN regiments, galvanized yankee defenders,  CSA general slow to get troops back under control etc).
Originally posted by Nick1986

It would also be interesting to find out how they were treated after the war: how many were murdered or forced to leave by vengeful neighbors?
During the war, many were killed, but the murders went both ways. In the Appalachian mountains, a favorite tactic of pro CSA and pro union guerilla groups was to murder soldiers serving on the wrong side in their homes.  The guerillas also murdered alot of civilians due to real and imagined, direct or indirect support of the wrong side.  Both CSA and Union sponsored viscious home guards anti guerilla units whose definition of "guerilla" could be "anybody with stuff I want to loot, icluding women".
 
After the war, the tit for tat killings continued as part of family blood feuds.  For example, the Hatfields and McCoys served on different sides.  On another occasion in North Georgia, 7 wedding guests were gunned down by a rival family that had served on the other side.
 
    
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2012 at 19:26
Originally posted by Sidney

A bit off topic, but slang related;

My great grandpa was always known in the family as 'Frenchy Joe'. An uncle told us it was because he had a cleft palate and couldn't speak properly (ie sounded foreign).
But I read "Memoirs of an Eighteenth Century Footman" by John Macdonald, and the author is nicknamed in the early 1760s 'French Macdonald' because he was a bit of a babe magnet.
Now my great grandpa is also remembered for having a few extra marital affairs, so it seems his nick name was for a similar reason. Anyone else heard of this slang term?

"Frenchified" is also slang for a venereal disease


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Posted By: Snafu
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2012 at 06:02
There's a great slang dictionary from the old east called the Rogue's Lexicon. It was written by the police chief of New York city in 1859 and was used by his officers to decode the heavy slang language of the criminal underworld (anyone who has seen Gangs of New York will recognize many of the terms. Some of them are even still with us) It's still in print and worth checking out if your a slangophile.


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Apr-2012 at 19:33
Originally posted by Snafu

There's a great slang dictionary from the old east called the Rogue's Lexicon. It was written by the police chief of New York city in 1859 and was used by his officers to decode the heavy slang language of the criminal underworld (anyone who has seen Gangs of New York will recognize many of the terms. Some of them are even still with us) It's still in print and worth checking out if your a slangophile.


Look what i've foundBig smile
http://archive.org/stream/cu31924073798740#page/n9/mode/2up - http://archive.org/stream/cu31924073798740#page/n9/mode/2up


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Posted By: Snafu
Date Posted: 11-Apr-2012 at 18:42
good find! You can always find stuff for free online :)


Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 11-Apr-2012 at 19:45
California collar: Hangman's noose
Arizona tenor: Tuberculosis patient
Woolies: Chaps retaining the goat's hair
Buck out: Die
Sow-belly: Salted pork
Longhorn: Experienced (no longer a greenhorn)
Catawumpusly: Eagerly
Equalizer: Revolver
Big 50: .50-90 caliber Sharps rifle


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 12-Apr-2012 at 19:26
[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U[/TUBE]

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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 13-Apr-2012 at 20:43
Possum - Buddy
Joy juice - Liquor
Sawbones - Surgeon
Company Q - Sick list
Yellow Hammer - Alabaman
Hospital rat - Malingerer


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 14-Apr-2012 at 21:21
All horns and rattles: Angry
Two whoops and a holler: Not very far away
Hangfire: Delay
Dinero: Money
Gospel Mill: Church
Shave-tail: Greenhorn (the horses of new cavalry recruits had their tails shaved to mark them out as rookies)


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 19-Jun-2012 at 19:57
Wallpapered - Drunk (the origin of "getting plastered" perhaps?)
Bully - Hurrah!
Grab a root - have dinner (almost certainly potato)
Bark juice - Strong liquor
Jayhawked - Stolen property
Braxton Bragg's Bodyguard - Lice
Going down the line - Visiting the brothel
Fancy girl - Whore


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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 20-Jun-2012 at 19:11
Raggedasssecond, i think this topic might be of use to you

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