http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgpxSiKTWyo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgpxSiKTWyo

I have never ever seen a persian wearing shalvar show me one Persian from eshafan, kerman, fars or yazd who wears that thing (they are the real persians someone from ardabil isn´t persian just because he speaks farsi) 

here some kurds from East.

http://www.persiatours.com/image/kurdistan_iran.jpg - http://www.persiatours.com/image/kurdistan_iran.jpg

http://www.peshmergekan.com/wene_babet/qasmlu_poster.jpg - http://www.peshmergekan.com/wene_babet/qasmlu_poster.jpg

i don´t suppose that you have seen a scythian or parthian wearing that because i don´t thinkyou ever have seen or will see some. Salvars are wel known as riding breechesand they have been brought to middle east and central asia by scyths, sarmatians etc. 

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/TilkeSalwar.jpg - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/TilkeSalwar.jpg

http://www.missionslaunch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/old-man4.png - http://www.missionslaunch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/old-man4.png

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In the Qajar and previous dynasties, Iran had a religious society, women even covered their faces in public, of course they wore shalvar under their chadors too.

 

 

Qajars had Turkic origin but the capital of Qajar dynasty (1794 – 1925) was Tehran, those women could be not Persian ethnically, because there were women of different ethnic origins in the Qajar harems but Persian men and women certainly wore shalvar too, in fact Shalvar (like legs) and Pajama/Pyjama (foot garment) are Persian words, Shal/Shel means "leg" in Persian, it has the same Indo-European origin of Greek word "Skelos", you probably know Triskelion (three legs): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

because this guys you are calling assyrians are originaly chaldeans and they lived among kurds. they wear the typical shal u shapik and it isn´t of Assyrian origin because shal and shapik are iranic words.

Scythian looking kurds from Turkey

colemerg (hakkari)

betlis

Scythian looking Kurd from Iraq(Duhok)

phrygian looking kurd from cewlik (Bingöl)

Medic looking Kurds from Kirmashan

and urmiya

Parthian looking Kurds 

Hurrian looking kurd from Cizir

Urartian-Mannaen looking kurdish Girl

Hethitian looking Kurd

Levantine (amorrit-phönician) looking kurds from Iraq

Thats my oppinion

Culturell Medic-Scyth-Parthian-old Anatolian (PrhygianHurrian-Hethitian) with Persian (zoroastrianism), Arabic(Islam) and Levantine Influence.

Yilmaz Güney Anatolian looking kurd maybe hethit.

Mahsum Kirmizigül has a Medic look.

Ahmet Kaya has an Hethitan look more from Central Anatolia

Hurrians-Mannaens-Urartians-Georgians = Caucasian

of course you can also find some mongol looking kurds i don´t deny this. I also know a kurd from Mardin who looks 100% mongol but thats not the common look among kurds I have never seen a bigger group of kurds which look turkic. By the way even the Turkmens from Anatolia are less mongol mixed than Afghans and Turkmens from Central-Asia you can´t comper them to each.

He is Medic looking. Just because this look is also very common among todays Iranians it doesen make it typical Old Persian. Don´t forget that a big part of Iran which is today Persian is former Medic and Parthian Land like Teheran, Gilan, Semnan, mazandaran, Golestan. Almost 50% of Persian look more typical Medianor parthian than Persian.And of course their is not such a big difference between old Persian and Medic look. The only Reason why i didn´t used Persian look is because we don´t have realy Old Persian ancestory. We are Northwest Iranic.

 In my Opinion this are the typical Old Persian looks. 

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Medic looking Persians

Azeri Medic looking Persians

thats IMO

typical Iranian Look. I said their are some few kurds who look like mongols. Afghan look is not the same as Indic look you mix things up like you want i think i even know you i saw one time a kurd on youtube who tried to explain me that we Kurds have more Indic influnece like he has some indian complexes lol. Any i talk about the majority and if you try to tell me that there is a bigger kurdish community in middle east which looks indic than please show me a youtube video or something like that were i can see a bigger group of kurds(not only a big familly who are related to each other) who look Indic or Mongolic. I also know a Kurd from Mardin who is extremly nationalistic but looks 100 Mongol. Also it would be nice if you could show me your and your mothers grandmothers picture so i can understan what you mean with turkic.

If you look like Coban you don´t look untypical for kurds. Coban even has a mediterranian distinct look rather than indian.

I know which singer you mean but she doesen´t look anything near indian. You just get this feeling because you know many Indians and have contact to them and so you get the feeling of indians looking closer to you than they realy are. The simmiliaritys you find among kurds with indians are the same simmilaritys you can also find with other middle eastern people to them. Thats nothing special their is no clear border. Their are even Italians who look rather Indic but aren´t. look at this italian actress doesen´t he looks indic influenced?

The woman on the picture looks turkic. But thats not so important a nationality is not made up only by race but cultur and feeling

if thats so than there is no way you look indic. maybe some indians look like you. but i have never seen a typical indian kid with blond hair in his early ages. maybe some individual cases but never a standart one.

I realy don´t know why but sometimes i thin you don´t read my comments very well

"maybe some individual cases but never a standart one."

this two boys doesen´t look anything near kurdish but veddic. they look like blond aborigini kids. 

Nope nothing close Indian i realy don´t know what your idea of a typical Indian look is but hey for sure your idea is totaly influenced by seeing many indians. The guys you are showing look 100% Levantine (Phönician) like syrians, lebanese and big part of iraqis. what on them looks Indic for you? From the girls the two from right look rather slavic influenced than indian the left one looks levantine.

I realy don´t know what you imagine by saying indian.

typical Northindians.

north indian guy

only the last one could pass as Iranian.

many of Indians from England are also mixed with english people you shouldn´t forget that they aren´t Muslim so their is no big problem to intermarriage with them. In England you can find many mixed Indian actress. Also Northindia has a big diversity there are of course indians who look like kurds but you make the connection from. It rather some Indians look like Middle Eastern People than some kurds look like Indians. Out of your mouth it sounds like kurds look indian rather some indians could look like Kurds. I also know some Pakistanis and Indians.

there is no semitic or arabic look. their is an arab peninsula look, a levantine look and a northafrican berber look.

oh hello dear baluch friend

I know Pakistan was former way more Iranian looking but at the english colonialism time many dravidians flet to pakistan also and the result is well to see today.

Originally posted by Ince I think on average this what Kurds look like.

you should realy stop trying so hard to be iranian because neither afghans or you are. Afghans are of Iranic stock mostly pashtun and dari with some belutch in southwest. Kurds are iranic but not Iranian.

My eyelids look also a bit shiny the people say the same to me also.  

 

Unfortunately many things have been changed in Tehran, especially in the recent years!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course the important point is that women wear hijab in the Islamic republic of Iran!

 

That girl in the middle looks damn hot

not everyone who writes a book has to be a proffesor you know what i mean . And even than you should be more inteligent and don´t use it Iranian= citizen of Iran  Iranic=Iranic stock of language. 

 

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She seems to be more an anti-Arab than a Persian!!

 

No. She just introduce the audience with some moments from Iranian history. Here she talking about letter of Chaliph Omar to Yazdgird III

 

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She don`t speak only about historic theme, but also about Iranian culture.

 

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I manage to understand that her name is Elham Sataki and she worked for Persian-speaking private channel in USA.

 

 

 

 

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I manage to understand that her name is Elham Sataki and she worked for Persian-speaking private channel in USA.

 

Anyway it is dangerous to be an anti-Arab and say these things against Islam, you probably know about her current situation?

 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0410/Sexual_harassment_lawsuit_filed_against_Voice_of_America.html - http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0410/Sexual_harassment_lawsuit_filed_against_Voice_of_America.html

 

The Board of Governors, the Acting General Counsel and managers in the Persian News Network (PNN) of Voice of America (VOA) have been sued in a $150 million USD complaint for covering up rampant and widespread sexual harassment at the network. To make matters worse, the women who were harassed, and in particular, the principal anchor and star of PNN, Ms. Elham Sataki, were then retaliated against by the defendants when they complained of the sexual harassment.
As set forth in the complaint, the reason for the workplace retaliation stems from an unhealthy sculture of corruption at PNN, where anchors, such as Ms. Sataki, are punished for their personal political views in favor of more aggressive, pro-Iranian freedom news reporting, particularly during this critical period in Iranian history. Indeed, Congressional investigations are underway concerning PNNs news coverage on Iranian issues, where 69 House members (and influential U.S. Senators) recently wrote to President Obama asking him to look into anti-American and pro-Regime rhetoric being broadcast by PNN into Iran, at at time when the United States should be more supportive of the Iranian freedom movement. The Washington Times recently ran an editorial characterizing the current V0A as Voice of the Mullahs.
As a result of the sexual harassment and severe agency retaliation, Ms. Sataki was rendered medically disabled and is currently convalescing in her native home of Los Angeles.

 

In further, there is a big misconception, that always bother us, that's a stereotypy story:(We Are Arabian People!) while that's quite wrong and irrelevant! we have independent language, culture and race.

of course I'm not anti arab, the matter is ignorance about my country and my people!  

thanks cyrus!     

(sepasgozaram)