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Egypt, "A great house" or "Great Horse?"

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Topic: Egypt, "A great house" or "Great Horse?"
Posted By: opuslola
Subject: Egypt, "A great house" or "Great Horse?"
Date Posted: 13-May-2010 at 15:21
Dear Cyrus, and others!

Knowing your fondness of word play(s)! I have a friend who is also a "player" and he sent me this a while ago. His name is Rob.

"Ron,

I know how much you like to play with words.

In English = Farrier and French = Ferrier is a person who cares for the horse hoof. Later, Iron was called ferrum and a ferrarius was a smith of Iron.

In Persian…Pharas = faras = horse. Farras = mare and Fares/Faris = horseman.

Now compare to PerAa:       

The word Pharo (Pharaoh) is given the meaning "Great House" and was originally thought to refer to the king’s palace.

The earliest known instance where the term “Per-Aa” as used to specifically address the ruler was in a letter written to Akhenaten.

I can only wonder why?

Tut falls off his horse stabbing himself in the knee.

They say Cyrus came from “Fars” a province in Iran where his father-in-law had horses.

But we also know that the Hyksos were a horse people who invaded Egypt.

The picture found in the tomb of general Horemheb discovered by Theodore Davis in 1907 shows the horse riding Horemheb who served both Akhenaten & Tutankhamen as a prince & seal bearer only to become a king with the scent mark of a mare on his hands.

So…I’m thinking that Hyksos, Pharo and Pharas are related to horse people. Is it “Great House” or “Great Horse”? Is it “Per-Aa” or “Fer-Aa”?

What really was the Trojan horse? Any thoughts.

Rob" (AKA, ElReb)

Since I know that you understand the English relation of "Ph" and the English "F", etc., maybe you have some ideas? Of course, I am referring to "PH-rigia" and "F-rigia?", you know, the Anatolian ones!

You might notice Rob's words from above; "In Persian…Pharas = faras = horse. Farras = mare and Fares/Faris = horseman."

Can I also say that "Pharas" or "Farras" could easily become "Pharis?" or in the Trojan cycle, even "Paris?"

Your comments are both expected and awaited!

Regards,



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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 14-May-2010 at 00:16
There are some problems, English Farrier has not a Germanic origin but Latin and Persian Faras (horse) which is rarely used, has not an Iranian origin but Semitic, in fact that is an Arabic word.
The old Persian word for horse is "asa" (like in asabara "rider") which is very similar to Old English "assa" (ass), the proto-Germanic word for "horse" was *khursa-: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=horse&searchmode=none - http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=horse&searchmode=none  like the Old Persian word kharsa (draught horse), in Modern Persian "khar" means "ass" and "khurs" means "bear". (Bears were also used to bear heavy loads)


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Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 15-May-2010 at 17:04
Sorry I bothered you? I thought I saw or rather my source thought he saw something that might well be connected?

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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 29-May-2011 at 09:31
AGjuPoToN.Victim Nile,Cover it,Mother(Earth!).Nile also sacrifice itself and cover dry lands!All their life is sacrifice!They sacrifice to goods,so they sacrifice for them!Nile is,mouth of the birth,it feeds them!Approve


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 14-Jan-2012 at 03:01
From Victim's,mouth of the Misir&Turkey(Nile!),sources mother's shelter!Now is OK!Language system of Egyptians&NaDeNaJVeMo is solved!Wait for my book!Big smile 


Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2012 at 14:28
AGjuPoToN=Sacrificial Bird's mouth(Nile) sources shelter Mother's!SmileNow You have all elements that ordinary sentence has to has!


Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 08-Dec-2013 at 17:14
By the way, just what does "medenaywe" mean?

Regards, Ron

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Posted By: medenaywe
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2013 at 00:55
It is Americanism of Nadenajven:my last analyzis say it is something like=Divine original Realizator
&Fullfiler&Sanctifier,one of titles that pharaoh,son of Ptolemy the fourth,Ptolemy the Fifth had .
Smile



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